Hey Kruz, I pulled another one out of the woodwork. LOL
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 10:26 AM
my tired old zx14 barely made it through this vid.On er last legs alright
Suspension was tired... 50k without being serviced is a very long time.
If you rode some tighter stuff, you would not have ignored maintaining that component for so long.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:50 AM
Yup.....I agree with ya there on the suspension.I never did do anything with it.My bad.Just never really wanted to have someone pull everything apart and do all that stuff.The fork seals never leaked or anything...so I just kept ridin her.I would have eventually had my mech rebuild the forks and such,but "as long as it wasn't broke"....you know.I'm guessing you watched at least part of the vid.Does my engine sound 'tired' on there?I'm just curious...that's all.I always thought she ran very strong .
I had nothing to compare my bike with around here...so I really don't know.You have Ohlins or something on yours,right Dogo?I can imagine IF I'd had something like that(which I thought about getting)...she would have handled like night and day difference."ignorance is bliss" sometimes Probably would have felt like a new bike had I had the frontend serviced.I won't be doing that again.This time around...frontend gets included.(have to say though...my bearings and races and stuff were okay).Those were checked every tire change.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 12:16 PM
Does my engine sound 'tired' on there?
You have Ohlins or something on yours,right Dogo?
Yes.
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Grn14
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 12:26 PM
Ya...they are long...lots of 'in between' getting to and from the hammering spots.IDK.I guess just scroll through em or whatever and when ya see some sweepers,stay there or go up or back some?I never noticed a flat spot....only right off of idle...I can always take constructive criticism.I'm always open to it...as long as someone doesn't say....well...this didn't happen or that's not what is happening.You know what I mean.I'm pretty 'to the point' when I describe something.If someone else sees something I'm interpreting differently...I'm okay with that.I can be wrong.
Like you saying 'that suspension is tired"....I KNOW it's not top notch...it can't be..like you said...it never was serviced.So you saying that doesn't offend me at all.Same with anything else.It's when someone makes a statement about something and they have NO idea what it really is....and then argues over it...that's,well...we know where THAT ends up going.I'm guilty of trying to 'prove my point'...when I really should just stay quiet and let others say what they think.Ya...I get it.
I'd have to say that it IS possible my motor had more inside....I switched out a map that I got from a member here.It was a tweaked Muzzy map for the 14 set up like mine was.It actually did seem to produce more midrange kick than that other map I had.But the low speed driveability wasn't very good.Took it out.There WAS a power difference with that map though.I could definitely tell she picked up a bit more of something.
It's very possible that my bike was not running full on to it's potential stock power...with a good mapping from a Dyno or something.Very possible.It's also very possible that if my bike HAD been tuned professionally and all with the 'right' goodies on there,I might have never gotten the NEW bike.But....I'm very happy with the new bike's performance and everything.I don't have any regrets.It does actually feel more 'personalized' to me....and it has plenty of kick...enough for me anyway.Like I said...I've NOTHING here to compare my other bike with.Or this new one...except my experiences with my 07.So far...the new bike outperforms my other one by leaps and bounds.It's a very exciting bike for sure.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 2:45 PM
You think I'm full of it?
LMAO... Wet noodled.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 3:36 PM
This is the Dogo Dagwood Stackerock the boat. ThISea for foodipping in the "J"-Sauce... You know what I'm talking about, Dogo. Failure after failure, and then... Not even close. But that soupstock. This bread went too fast. Hot out of the oven, then let the butter melt. Crabmeatsandwich in a bowl. You netit, I'll breadit!
Imagine the beer tasting, the yeast infection we'd have! MEAT'Inn Greet'INN. Beer/Bread/Crab/Fed Fest! Burp!
Ho looK, Shrimpizza Dogo Dough! Yum Yum!
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 3:50 PM
GRN,I couldn't watch them completely,from what I did watch,the scenery was nice,a little like ontario.The speed didn't impress me.I didn't see any challenge or point to it.Do yourself a favour and take to the track. Eliminate the on foreseen,critters ,road debris,cages.Challenge your self,Quit being stupid
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Grn14
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 4:06 PM
Well...no...I didn't ride those rides to impress anyone.I made em for when I'm sitting here...like now....with 2 ft of snow everywhere...and I can sit back and relax....watch my riding habits...memorize the roads(again)and have 'fun' thinking about the next season.What I could do different here,where I could hit my corner sooner there...that's all they're for.Hell....this deal here....my short Summers and all...that's all I have right now to go out and do something for me.I don't go party.I don't sleep around.Boring actually,if ya want to call it that.Got my Mom to watch out for..my job.DRAMA...I don't like DRAMA.Not in my life anyway.Time's too short for that.No...my bike is pretty much my 'friend'....sick sounding,I know.But it is.Besides the Lord.And Mom.And friends at work.And yes...you guys here.Been a good 5 years of forum membership for me.This IS a big part of me feeling good about things.Sa'll good.I have everything I could ever possibly want.My life's good...very good.
I can't afford to get down....too much riding on my staying upbeat and positive.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 5:05 PM
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 5:08 PM
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mad5674
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 8:38 PM
Watched some of those vids n gotta say my stock '11 will get to where he was at in 2nd gear and about half the time. Maybe he was just babying it but looked tame to me...
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:05 PM
I know there was a poll taken a while back...but I'll ask again...WHY does ANYONE(here)have a 14?It's virtually legally and sanely 'unusable' in it's real role on the street.So why have a bike like this?If you're not gonna Dragstrip it...why have it?Not many guys here ride em at the track....nobody seems to be going after the "gold" on their 14's...couple track days a year or whatever.And she's really NOT that well suited anyway for full on track use...so why have one?70 mph is 70mph,whether on a 14 or a Harley.I mean...every one of us wants to obey the law and drive safely,right?Is this REALLY the bike to do that with?I think we could all agree...no matter what year 14 you have...it's WAY overpowered for anything with two wheels to be ridden in accordance with the law.So why DO you have your 14?....unless you're a drag racer.That doesn't count.It's a perfect drag machine.
It's a very limited motorcycle...that's for sure.It can't corner like a 600...even 1000's can rip it up in the twisties...so it's not that great of a quick transitioning bike.On the plus side...it shines at the strip.....and triple digit riding,cornering(if possible)are where it's in it's element.It is however extremely illegal...and dangerous to get into that element.So why have one?
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:26 PM
Hell Grn fer that matter ! even a fairly new 250cc bike or 4 cyl car ! by the word of Law in the USA & Ozz ???
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:34 PM
looool, Hub is that a 99% chick?
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:38 PM
What happened to this post?
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 9:12 PMHere's the deal....RACE TRACK....go balls out when you hit every straight.Corner comes up,brake,set your line,lean in and 'try' to increase throttle on yer apex and such,then hit it hard on your way out,and back to full throttle.
Street...fun riding....go the speed limit or close to it on the straights(saves precious tires that way).Doesn't scare the shit outta the people who happen to live right near the roads.Kids an stuff...dogs...deer.Black bears...
Corner comes up...pick yer line...watch for line crossing cagers as you 'try' to increase your corner speed.Ya get lucky sometimes...you can somewhat open er up while cornering,increasing throttle as you leave your turn.That crest there...no tellin what's coming up.So ya use some wisdom and ease up a tad,just in case.Make the crest...no cars...no deer,black bears or elk crossin ahead.You open er up a bit...but ya still don't get anywhere near full throttle.Ya don't want those folks livin around there callin the PoPo.Kinda ruins yer day if ya get stopped.
Sometimes ya get a clear run through several turns.You still take a chance on them critters maybe tryin to beat ya to the crossing point(in their mind)...so ya restrain yerself and enjoy what ya have.
It's not supposed to be Willowsprings.Or Millermotorsports.I've NEVER opened my 07 full throttle ever....except those couple of runs on the big straight for a top end checkout.Not even close.It's just too iffy and risky to try to run the Ninja like that on the highway.Highest I've run speedwise on a few of those curves..they may or may not be in those vids...was 150.And those were NOT an average day of riding.EVERYTHING was clear and safe when I ran anything like those.Even these vids..it looks like it's vision 'impaired' kinda...but on the bike....you guys know....you see things much clearer up ahead and open.I'm really NOT trying to ride a Willowsprings style(I know...good thing )...just havin fun on my Ninja.
They're just winter vids...that's all.Study vids(for myself).No doubt some of ya...probably most of ya have bikes right now that could easily blow my 07 away.It was a dog.But I had fun nevertheless.You can tell 'skills' were not very important in those.Just normal 'breaking the law' stuff mostly.Stupid stuff.I told ya before...I'm no real rider.Just a wannabe.Like everything else I do....wannabe.
http://youtu.be/TXAHgjtttec....he's fine....his bike?another story there.http://youtu.be/6qIOUyHjEYA....u never know...you ride and 'take you chances'...wherever you're going.Fast or slow....skilled or unskilled.Shit happens.Modded bikes or not.Fast bikes or dogs.1/4 mile draggers or weekend warriors.NOBODY gets out alive anyway.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:41 PM
So 'we' get this monster bike....already NOT suited really for anything but straightline legal dragstrip use.And "we" mod the heck out of it...make it have MORE power.MORE thrust.MORE handling quickness...and do WHAT with it?Why do YOU own a bike like this?
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/20/12 11:43 PM
I took it away...it wasn't saying anything important.Just my thoughts out loud really.I don't even know WHY I posted it.Pointless...really.Nobody wants to read that BS.
Those big azz feet...now THAT's amazing!Really...it is.Never seen anything like that!
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kawnow
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/21/12 1:31 AM
GRN I think after watching your videos your A - the lomely guy B- delusional or C - a whack job don't want to sound too harsh or anything. That might as well be on a gold wing I haven't made any videos myself to show you but your bike has a lonely spot that is any thing above 6k rpm do you ever ring that thing's gd neck you know wide open throttle to redline on at least three gears including 1st. I'm on my 3rd set of front brake pads those are some easy listening roads smooth jazz. I'm at sea level but really can you enjoy this bike putting around like that My bike on a good air day can power wheelie all the way through 1st and up to around 100 mph in second. That is why I own a zx14.
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/21/12 1:54 AM
Yes to all three...no I never go above 5K....I don't ever power wheelie.I've never run to redline in any gear.I get scared over 65 mph.I got my new bike to only look at.I feel like a real man now having this ugly green POS.Anything I missed?Geez...what was I thinkin.I've never replaced any brake pads.I've never changed a sprocket.I was still on my first set of tires in a 4 year ownership.I've never had to replace a chain.Those videos are of someone else...I don't ever ride like that.EVER.Whoever that is...he certainly can't ride worth a shit....slow azz fucker.God...he should be ashamed of himself ridin a bike THAT powerful the way he is.
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Hub
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
01/21/12 3:18 AM
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Yes to all three...no I never go above 5K....I don't ever power wheelie.I've never run to redline in any gear.I get scared over 65 mph.I got my new bike to only look at.I feel like a real man now having this ugly green POS.Anything I missed?Geez...what was I thinkin.I've never replaced any brake pads.I've never changed a sprocket.I was still on my first set of tires in a 4 year ownership.I've never had to replace a chain.Those videos are of someone else...I don't ever ride like that.EVER.Whoever that is...he certainly can't ride worth a shit....slow azz fucker.God...he should be ashamed of himself ridin a bike THAT powerful the way he is.
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