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Thread: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R

Created on: 10/29/11 11:20 AM

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jackleemaster



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 2:45 AM

Cell phone jammer is an interesting and helpful device when we don’t want to be bothered by the cell phone noise. I just bought myself a phone jammer the other day,it is working great and BTW, it’s legal here in my country.

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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 3:31 AM

jackleemaster

BTW, it’s legal here in my country.
???? which ONE???


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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 5:58 AM

Comments about the big guy, respect that he rides and doesn't give a shit about appearances. Besides if the duc is his dream bike and he loves to ride it I see no problems. Props to the big guy, don't hate this man for setting a good example. I was 63 and 285lbs on an R1. I was like a grizzley on a tricycle - I didn't give a shit either. Now I am 63 and 230 and the 14 fits like a glove. Not going to drop 20k on an icecream bike (last on it long enough to ride to the icecream store) and really if it's that uncomfortable are you going to enjoy a full day at the track. My 2 cents boys. Love my 14







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 6:05 AM


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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 5:58 AM
Comments about the big guy, respect that he rides and doesn't give a shit about appearances. Besides if the duc is his dream bike and he loves to ride it I see no problems. Props to the big guy, don't hate this man for setting a good example. I was 63 and 285lbs on an R1. I was like a grizzley on a tricycle - I didn't give a shit either. Now I am 63 and 230 and the 14 fits like a glove. Not going to drop 20k on an icecream bike (last on it long enough to ride to the icecream store) and really if it's that uncomfortable are you going to enjoy a full day at the track. My 2 cents boys. Love my 14

WELL SAID WOOLFY!



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 6:49 AM

Bean baby, you and I are on the same page - always!!!







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 8:16 AM

This thread was revived by a cell phone jamming spammer! ;))



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 6:56 PM

shoot you're right C, didn't mean to hijack another one. Just saw the first post and ranted without seeing that this thread had 47 pages...
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 8:57 PM

My affection for the BMW is no secret, as I almost bought one as a second bike.

But who knows what the future holds. I think when its time to trade the 14R off, I'll probably give the mighty S1000RR a whirl.

Not at all familiar with what the mentioned Ducati has to offer, though. But if I did ever get a second bike, or when I am ready to trade the 14R, it'll definitely be for a S1000RR. I can't see getting another 14R no matter how much I currently love the bike. I just think I'll want a change something different for my next machine.

But for now, the 14R is unbeatable, overall. Love it and really enjoy it.

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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/27/13 9:02 PM

But who knows what the future holds. I think when its time to trade the 14R off, I'll probably give the mighty S1000RR a whirl.
Not at all familiar with what the mentioned Ducati has to offer, though. But if I did ever get a second bike, or when I am ready to trade the 14R, it'll definitely be for a S1000RR. I can't see getting another 14R no matter how much I currently love the bike. I just think I'll want a change something different for my next machine.
I would have tried one out forsure when I wore a younger mans clothes but them days are gone for me for ever include my luv for the Dirt bikes is definately OUT !



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
04/28/13 6:02 AM

Bean, my svelt 230 - 6'3 frame is never going to fit any litre machines. With my sore back and other injuries "light" dual sport riding is possibly in the future, IE riding with kids. - I weighed 165lbs when I was 17 and at the time I could fit on some stuff. I hit the 200 club in my late 20's and now at 40 I fight for every pound. I love my 14!







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 1:46 AM

Different from other electronics, cell phones have become the necessity of every one's daily life. If someone still has no idea of mobile phones, you must say that "Out!" of course except the senior citizens. To be honest, cell phones really bring us lots of benefits. We use it for talking, sending and playing. With it, our life can be modern one, without it, we will be live in the Mars, you know, know nothing about each other. But do cell phones have no disadvantages? Of course not, more and more people are using cell phones at the cost of other interests. Noises are everywhere, especially the one of mobile phones. What should we do, throw them away? It is a stupid behavior. Have you ever heard cell phone signal booster? It is a new kind of device to solve this problem, effective in blocking the signals of your cell phone and its nearby base station. one side, the mobile phone really benefits us a lot, but another side we also benefit from its noises for a long time, so the fight between the cell phone and cell phone jammer has been a hot topic in society now. Which side you stand by, jamming or not, it depends on you.

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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 5:04 AM

To jam or not to jam, that is the questions?!







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 7:06 AM

Someone oughta jam that guy! :))))



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 11:56 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Taaarue!







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 12:31 PM

Someone oughta jam that guy! :))))

+5


You know this thread was the result of me being frustrated when I saw how the liter bikes got upgrades every year and where getting closer to full on race bikes. I was hoping that the 14R would get a shorter wheelbase, get lighter etc. The ZX-10 gets 170 hp, the Beemer 183 hp but they give the 14 only 190 hp!? If manufacturers like BMW continue to produce bikes that can kill a 14R in a straight line, the hyper bike market is going to be extinct. I don't remember who said it but some famous racer stated that the 2012 BMW could have won some races in the early 90's in WORLD SBK! Which is crazy when you think about it. I have also read that BMW is coming up with a device that'll warm up your engine before you start it!
I'm new to bikes but in the last ten years, I haven't seen Kawasaki come up with something new and change the game. They came with the ZX-12 as a response to the Hayabusa but since they were too close in performances the Busa remained king. After that, the ZX-14 in 2006, but same thing the Busa remained king and in 2008 the Busa got even meaner. It's only in 2012 when the ZX-14R came out that Ricky G admitted setting is fastest time with the 2008 Busa (stock bike). It took 13 years and the change took place not only because the Hayabusa was still king but because the ZX-10 and S 1000RR became a serious threat in a straight line. I'm not more power angry than the next guy but if I'm going to be on a heavier sport bike, I don't even wanna see a liter in my rearview mirror when the road is straight!

As far as comparing the liters to the 14, I don't buy into the 14 is more comfortable argument, not because it's not true but because it is subjective. I'm 6'5 and that's the only reason I'm on the 14. Don't get me wrong it was a blessing in disguise. I'm kinda glad that my size forced me in that direction and that I bought myself one. Just look at my mods list and you can't argue I love my 14. That being said for the average and fit guy 5'11-175 lbs, who want to go fast I would say get a 1000RR or a ZX-10. In my view, you get a sport bike to experience something similar to what the racers experience. It also depends on the terrain, guys in California, Washington State, Arkansas etc will always favor liters or smaller. I use to live in Nebraska which is flat and it's only when I moved to Austin that I started looking into liters. Now for the XL-XXL crowd or drag racers, the 14 is the ticket. Furthermore, it takes more maturity to appreciate the 14, you have to be less concerned with knee dragging and clipping apexes, it is SPORT-touring bike. At soon to be 33 and fit I'm more attracted to the liters. I'm thinking track days, maybe racing at the lowest levels etc. I do enjoy touring the country on a missile so there will always be a ZX-14 or similar in my garage but unless the sport bike industry is revolutionized or my 14 break down, I don't see a 14R in my garage before I get to be 40+ to be honest.

ZX-14MAN: you should get both... keep the 14 and get the RR. I will most likely get something used for track but I will always consider a brand new 1000RR if I can swing it.


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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 12:44 PM

You really don't NEED a 14R with the build you have on your present 14...I don't think so anyway.Wish I could ride yer bike...always been 'stock' with mine.

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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 1:26 PM

Who knows Green, one of this days, I may come to Montana! With my baby ^^^.
145 mph sweepers sound fun!

Maybe, I have talked too fast because I have been thinking about doing some LSR events. If I get bit by the bug hard, I may splurge on a 14R just to enter the 200 MPH club, I will probably return it close to stock and use it as my touring bike for the wife and I



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 1:36 PM

Man...your bike is just way cool...I really like it.Kinda wish sometimes I had my ole 07...but I'm happy with my new bird.You should be able to get yer speed record with yer Black Baby shouldn't you?You don't need a 14R for that;)

"Who knows Green, one of this days, I may come to Montana! With my baby ^^^.
145 mph sweepers sound fun!"...you would certainly be welcome here..I've plenty of room...it's safe..and yes...the roads are very cool.You tell me if'n ya ever want to come up....I'll leave the light on for ya!;)

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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 5:46 PM

I'm too tall and relatively heavy for 200 mph but with a good tail wind everything is possible

You tell me if'n ya ever want to come up....I'll leave the light on for ya!;)

Will do. Be safe out there!



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/20/13 8:11 PM

DragKing,
Black is Beautiful!
Sunny Toronto awaits you, if you go international!
REZpect
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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/21/13 6:23 PM

Dragking wrote:

"If manufacturers like BMW continue to produce bikes that can kill a 14R in a straight line, the hyper bike market is going to be extinct. I don't remember who said it but some famous racer stated that the 2012 BMW could have won some races in the early 90's in WORLD SBK! Which is crazy when you think about it"

It is.

To me, and from what I felt when I rode the RR, its almost nuts how fast and ferociously powerful the RR really is.

THis bike is like the Roy Jones JR. (in his prime) was to boxing. Cleaning house in his weight division, and moving up to heavy weight and also winning a title. LOL

I still want a RR so bad I can taste it, but I just got my new job and once I settle into it and see how my finances have improved, we'll see. I am not the kind to make a rush decision. They are not going to stop making RRs.

Gotta keep the 14R, though. Can't get rid of the green machine as its a great *two up* bike for longer rides. Gotta share the riding experience with the little woman when she wants to go. And the 14R's low end torque is something that'd be hard to let go of, as well.

The plan is..........Keep my 14R...............and when I am ready I'll find a good deal on a slightly used 2012 (that is when the refinements came).

Great looking black beast, Dragking. Intimidating!


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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/21/13 6:53 PM

As for the other bike mentioned at the start of this thread, I don't care for the Ducati's looks, but its apparently a monster, powerwise, as well. Don't really care for the styling of it. BUt then again, I hated the RR initially, now I love it.

I am not familiar with its electronic or handling features, but its hard to imagine its on par with the RR. But, it may be.......


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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/21/13 7:07 PM

They still don't make a bike that 'kills' the 14R in a straight line. That question has been answered.



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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/21/13 9:49 PM

The nicest bike in the world is the one you park in your stable. I LOVE MY ZX!$! I also loved my R1, my CBR F4i etc, etc, etc...







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RE: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
05/22/13 12:14 PM

From Motorcycle USA test :

"Where those Hyperbikes glide across the pavement absorbing bumps and potholes with ease,"(ZX14, Busa) "the BMW’s suspension translates every inch of the pavement directly to the rider. A great quality for sure on the racetrack or your favorite back road, however on most other surfaces it can be overwhelming and make it less comfortable for longer rides."

Also, lets not forget, the 14 is restricted (some what) from the factory with the "safe" mode of the flys,
not rying to put down the BMW, I think it is a great machine, amazing getting that power out of a stock 1K bike,
just pointing out a couple of things ....

Would love to have an RR as a second bike, just dont think it is going to happen, well unless my lawsuit from my accident ever gets settled..... who knows, srtanger things have happened LOL ....


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