I think Grn is probably getting a kick out of this thread if he is able to get onto the internet wherever he's at, he's got pretty thick skin and will come back I think, when he can. I don't condone what he did, my youngest daughter got busted for DUI a few years ago after refusing to take a field sobriety test, the financial and emotional toll were heavy but I think had the desired effect on her behavior. She still drinks but stays out from behind the wheel, at least that's what I hear. I had to use tough love on her, things had gotten to serious for me to control the situation any longer. I'm not condemning Grn, he's got a problem and is being forced to deal with it, thank GOD he didn't kill himself or an innocent bystander... or lived in Texas. Here they lock you up and throw away the key after the third DUI, five to ten years. As far as judgement, it's pretty much safe to say any one hearing this has probably exceeded the legal speed limit many times himself, that's an addiction too. None of us are immune from addictions, goes back to the casting the first stone thing.