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Thread: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II

Created on: 02/24/24 08:32 PM

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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/05/25 7:15 PM

got a lot of negative feedback, bottom line, no one thought it was a good idea.

Oh fuck them. On a wet road, sure. But dry? It's the tits!

It's squirrely because the turns are short and come up fast. So it's a constant flick setting up.

Keep it upright, Kruz.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/05/25 7:45 PM

Hey Hub, as of January 1, we no longer have motor vehicle safety inspections in Texas, so I could give slicks a try, the biggest objection on the forums was keeping heat in the tires between corners, as you can see from my videos, long straights and then a series of corners is more the norm here, also the issue of heat cycles was brought up.

Another Mad Max video in the California canyons, looks like a fun ride, where is this? I have a road nearby with similar corner speeds but not the elevation change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG_w9Cg8bA

These group ride videos make me cringe, too many squids with no protective gear doing stupid shit and what was a guy like Josh Herrin doing riding with those yahoos?

I have a lot of respect for Herrin but you'd think a guy of his caliber would avoid these kind of rides?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tkb5q9M7w


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01/05/25 8:53 PM

Hub, this guy is Michael Dunlop/Peter Hickman fast, he needs to go do the Isle of Man TT for sure, I doubt he could win the Senior TT on his first try but for sure fastest newcomer?

That is an old school, high pipe R1 he's riding, circa around 2008, on slicks, ancient tech and you can tell its been down more times than Kamala Harris. Respekt!

My question is how does this guy not have the C.H.P. waiting at his house after posting vids like this? He's got a well known Youtube presence, it's not like no one knows who the guy is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvb98ckhgCM


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/05/25 11:11 PM

Stock tires are hard compounds. Sports are mediums. Race is soft. So soft will heat faster. Especially in the summer months. Say the asphalt is 170F and you tire warm the heat to the 190's say. Just the heat of the road alone will warm the slicks up. Riding is going to cool off the sides so you're safe anyway you look at it... sans the wet.

Kruz, around here are big valleys. But you can leave the valley in say 11 miles across. So there are canyons after canyons you can snake thru.

Say where I live, you can only take a canyon to get to the beach, the next county, or city. You'd love it here road wise. Ask Cali Boy about all that's around the LA county valley.

As far as the canyons OG Squid go are farther south from me. But there are canyons only going in and out of each city were I live and that says Sheriff and state police cars sweeping up my neck of the woods, and one sweep past one of those guys could mean a reckless ticket and limited mileage privileges, if not pulled the license for a year and take the bus.

I think it's so relaxed chasing the hot rods around here, they have better things to do than chase OG Squids. The odds will catch up to them eventually. LOL

A long time ago when I used to swing to the Rock Store, the neighbor across from the store would come out of their driveway and aim for the bikers that came their way. Surprised me when it happened. I run stock pipes LOL.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/06/25 7:19 AM

Good stuff to know Hubmeister, I think I'll try the slicks this season on at least one of the bikes and see if there is any improvement. Can I get away without using tire warmers?

Speaking of warmers, it is COLD here for next several weeks, running up the entire fleet to keep the oil stirred up and batteries charged until warmer weather....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sElxoRF1c


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/06/25 11:48 AM

The fleet has fired up!

Non-warmers takes about 3 laps and then pin it. I have brand new slicks I'm going to mount on the 14. Took a ride last week to my sister and rode into fog/rain on the freeway. I'm thinking I hit that, it's pullover time under a bridge. Here comes a chippie and sees those mounted... I think it's a fix-it ticket and have it signed off with DOT's.

You'd have to cook those from not condensing in the mufflers, or the crankcase. It's almost on full temp (160F) or until the fans kick in.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/06/25 2:55 PM

Hub, I run 'em up to about 210-220F until cooling fan kicks in and then shut down.

Slicks sound good, I think I'll give them a try on one of my bikes and see how they work.

CHP wrote you a citation for the slicks?



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01/12/25 10:36 AM

Chasing Cali boy on his S1000RR.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMY3uuACkbk


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/12/25 9:25 PM

CHP wrote you a citation for the slicks?

Ah, no? Maybe I said [if I get caught] it might be just a fix it ticket. No hook, no points on my license, etc.

But boy was I lucky the other day. Have a temp plate for the Indian, yesterday get a letter from the DMV about not paying fees. Just the day before, I ordered a part for a bike, and also to ask what is the hang up on my plate and title?

DMV says we'll have the bike on a hook if I leave it parked in the street, let alone ride it. The dealer charged me for DMV fees, and the excuse was they needed the frame number or "family number" off the bike.

So I picked up my part today, brought in the sales slip showing paid DMV fees. The DMV letter stating 'Fees' and not some lame ass frame number that is already on the sales slip.

I'd be waiting longer if I didn't show the sales guy about it. Passed on the hook not seeing one cop on the road that day, eyeing that paper license plate with the month of NOV printed on it.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/13/25 9:30 AM

Dang, what a mess Hub, glad you have it all sorted now. Stay out of the canyons for a while until the fires settle down...



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RE&#x3a&#x3b; My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/16/25 9:50 PM

Latest videos Hubster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADo8HRzh5PE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tghDGsEjHiU


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
01/17/25 5:39 PM

IDK, but your lines became smoother, entries and exits I can't complain about, Kruz.

Man, if I could find someplace close to hit 130's around here. Looks fun, or at least you're having fun in that area. Looks cold with the snow still on the ground.

Speaking about slicks, there are some that take the front end out without a hint of what its going to do, and others are more predictable like controlling a front end slide.


Here is my selection of some year(s) old tires. Some rain, some used, some new old.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPobcsgusheARI6KneH8U9qISRkMYLXdTs9Y9Tb



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01/18/25 11:13 AM

IDK, but your lines became smoother, entries and exits I can't complain about, Kruz.

Man, if I could find someplace close to hit 130's around here. Looks fun, or at least you're having fun in that area. Looks cold with the snow still on the ground.

Speaking about slicks, there are some that take the front end out without a hint of what its going to do, and others are more predictable like controlling a front end slide.


Here is my selection of some year(s) old tires. Some rain, some used, some new old.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPobcsgusheARI6KneH8U9qISRkMYLXdTs9Y9Tb

Thanks Hub, chasing the smooth line on that road at high speed is very difficult due to the numerous chatter bumps, G outs, cracks and bad road repairs in the corners plus it is a very heavily traveled truck route but we do our best to chase the "smooth". Out there the "ideal" cornering line is almost never the best line due to the crap road surface.

It is a very fun road with lots of variety in the turns but you never really know what's just around the next bend so always must remain vigilante. I'm running my 80% pace here in the vids, 70% = boring, at 90% you get an occasional "oh shit" moment and 100% is right on the edge where if you push any harder you have no reserve left if something suddenly goes sideways. 80% pace is "all day" pace where it's fun and relaxed and when somethign unexpected happens you have time to react.

I did a sighting lap prior to uncorking it, we had a snowstorm hit last Thursday and the road was basically dry except for snow melt run off across the road in a few places.

BTW, I changed my Youtube Channel name to MaxTwist...lol!


Quite a selection of slicks you have Hub, I'm still debating whether to try them or stay with the Pirelli Super Corsa V4s.


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/05/25 2:04 PM

https://youtu.be/GRRTi37I1EM


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/05/25 2:50 PM

Nice riding! Back when I did that sort of thing, I made every effort to not make drivers crap themselves because they might just call the police. I did my best to only go fast when nobody else was around and where I rode, there weren't too many other vehicles. I still think the cops might have caught wind of me when I was doing my tuning runs.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/05/25 9:58 PM

Almost impossible these days to find a nice deserted backroad anymore with no traffic, I'd like to move to the Tail of the Dragon but the traffic there on the weekends is insane I hear.

BTW Rook, I just privatized all of my Youtube videos, not really trying to build a channel or gain subscribers and compete with Max Wrist...

I'm curious but it seems like I'm the only one on these Superbike forums that does "spirited" road rides, I guess everyone else either takes it to the track or runs 55 mph all the time on the road?


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/06/25 6:02 AM

Maybe they're all over forty and don't want to risk it at this point in life. I'm pretty sure I'll be riding fairly legally on the road from here on in. I couldn't stand to lose another bike.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/06/25 9:45 AM

Yep, this kind of thing seems to make folks a little squeamish...but not the Hub...


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/06/25 8:49 PM

TO SPEED!



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RE&amp&#x3b;&#x23&#x3b;x3a&#x3b&#x3b; My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/07/25 7:59 AM

The Hub wrote:

TO SPEED!

I have nightmares about looking back in my rear view mirror and seeing the Hubinator rapidly closing in on my 6 O'Clock....


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/07/25 5:17 PM

Kruz, I like the looks of your S1000 a lot better. ...as in about 10x better. This is the next bike I would buy (other than a used Gen1 ZX-14) but I don't know if I'd go for the extra 3 hp if I could get a good deal on a used older bike. A couple thousand bucks wouldn't be good enough, I'd just get a new one and paint it.

LOL "new improved larger winglets." What, they didn't get the winglets right the first time? My philosophy is, a used bike a few years older at a substantially lower price is the way to go even when you consider the advancements in design which add up to about nothing. However a used bike for pretty close to the price of a new one???? I'll just get the new one.



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/07/25 8:45 PM

That is a beautiful S1000 you own. I hope they will go back to some kind of design closer to that. that was a winning look. ...or come up with something else as good or better but the latest ones just aren't doing it for me with the looks. I'm not sure even the very best riders would notice the extra 3 hp or the increased front traction created by the improved winglets. Heck, you could pretty easily raise the tail of an older S1000 RR to have similar geometry. ...personally, I think they're reaching a little as far as talking up the improvements. You can't tell me they didn't get the bike 98% perfect the first gen. What was that, fifteen years ago?



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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/08/25 9:45 AM

Rook, I'm with you, in my opinion the 2020 through 2023 S1000RRs were the cat's pajamas, just like the 2020 through 2024 Ducati V4s were the pinnacle.... on looks anyway.

The new S1000RR is more track focused with huge winglets and sharper tuning, I thought the older model looked better and was probably better for the road.

If I was going to get a Ducati V4, I'd go '23 or '24, BMW S1000RR I'd go '20 to '23. Now for pricing, the BMWs hold their value extremely well, I paid $20,500 for my 2020 M Sport with full carbon package back in 2023 and thought that was a great deal on a three year old bike with 5200 miles.

A '23 set up the same way would have been north of $30,000 on the showroom floor. I have a buddy who just bought a '22 S1000RR M Package with 3 miles for $20K and he wants to sell it, he's on his way to Houston this morning to pick up a 2016 Ducati 1299 for $16K, those are another bike that hold their value well.

A lot of my friends are passing on new sportbikes and going for older ones that were better for road riding. The new stuff is getting too track focused except for the 2025 Ducati V4 which despite being arguably ugly with the chin spoilers and single sided swingarm, is actually a superb bike both on track and road if you can live with the looks and pricing which is well north of $30K now.


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/08/25 3:47 PM

Having trouble with my GoPro audio making a lot of buzzing sounds, this is my 2024 Aprilia RS660 Extrema. Any experts out there who can tell me why this buzzing occurs, it's on every bike I put the camera on? Hubster?

Also Hub, the yellow shift light comes on and then the red light right afterwards, am I bumping the rev limiter here? I'm not getting a rev limiter fuel cut or anything but this bike has such a low rev limit it seems I'm always bumping into it when I'm out hunting down liter bikes.

https://youtu.be/dAxWWFKv2VE


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RE: My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II
02/08/25 4:11 PM

Dam that buzzing sound is annoying, it sounds like somebody dropped a sack of chicklets in a food processor.

https://youtu.be/7iVMrpME04Q


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