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Thread: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust

Created on: 04/13/13 01:45 AM

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filmutah



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centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 1:45 AM

I have a original Kawasaki center stand installed on my 07 ZX14. By the way, I would not live or ride without a center stand. I installed a Two Bros. dual exhaust system but the center stand now touches on the bottom of left pipe. It looks like the right pipe needs an additional metal extension/rubber bumper like the original pipes so that the center stand can bottom before it hits the pipe. Any ideas out there, guys? Do I need a welder to fix this? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian

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HanksZX



Location: Augusta NJ

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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 6:19 AM

I have a set of OEM mid pipes adapted to accept a 2" ID muffler. (Pics available)
I then sold the mufflers with their original mid-pipes and have the OEM mids left.
If they would work with the 2 Bros, I'd take $50.00 + shipping.
Hank



2013 ZX-14R...my "Bagger", 2007 Aprilia Tuono...sold, 2012 ZX-14R...sold, 2007 ZX-14..sold, 2000 Suzuki Bandit Intercooled Turbo, 287HP, 182 lbs tq...sold, 1997 Honda Blackbird Intercooled Turbo, 255HP, 155 lbs tq...sold

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filmutah



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 9:49 AM

I'd like to see the pictures, if possible. My email is brian.patrick@utah.edu

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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 1:57 PM

Filmutah,
My bro, why are you so attached to that centre stand? I put my green maching on my stands when I work on her and I park her on the side stand. Is there something I am missing. Good luck with the fabrication, but I would just ditch that stand.
Wolf
Send a pic when the job is done, love to see it.


* Last updated by: Wolfman on 4/13/2013 @ 1:58 PM *







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wfozx14


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 4:34 PM

I have the same set up as you...and the same problem. I have a piece of flame retardant material wrapped around my center stand and held together with some hi temp rtv. Its one of those good enough for now things thats turned into a good enough forever thing. No one has ever noticed it down there and its been speed tested for a over a year with no issues at all. Oh well, A quick fix for you if you want,...good enough for now.lol



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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 5:31 PM

Fox, that's a brilliant idea,
Cost effective and very useful!

Erik, I see dude, for the hard core touring, you need a centre stand. Makes sense!

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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 8:01 PM

Filmutah, I think you are looking for something like this: Brocks Center-Stand Stop Kit for ZX-14.

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Neilp


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 9:08 PM

Here is my solution.

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=9AF192A5-D56B-84E2-1ADD556B899360F5

Works great, no problems at all to date!


Neil



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bean07


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/13/13 9:20 PM

I tapped a 3mm thread in it & put two rubbergrommets thier! cost $3 from a hardware store!



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filmutah



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/14/13 12:36 AM

Wow! I'm impressed with all the great responses and solutions to my center stand stop problem. First, why have a center stand? I probably would not have one if I just drove locally all the time, never straying past around 100 miles from home. But I love the fast sport touring that this machine offers, and I love being out on long trips in the Western US, often in the middle of nowhere. So if you are going to get lost on those deserted stretches, you really need a center stand so that you can oil your chain and do maintenance when needed, especially if you are by yourself. One of the reasons why I gave up my ZZR1200 for the ZX14 (besides the performance) was that I could also install an OEM exhaust. Besides, a true racer this bike is not.
I'll also rave about one more thing, sorry, and that is having a Scott Oiler. I had one on my ZZR 1200 and I think that I only had to adjust the chain once or twice in 25,000 miles. In fact, I sold it with the original chain! And believe me, it's great not to have to oil or adjust the chain everyday on the road. The little oiler puts a drop on the chain every minute or so, and the chain is always looking good without too much slack or tightness. I have the separate long range reservoir that hides under the seat.
Anyway, thanks to everyone for writing in with their personal solution. Hank's solution is a little vague because I don't have the Givi bags, and I'm not sure how it would work, and need more closeups, but he sure has a nice setup and a beautiful bike for touring. I like the quick fix of the heat shield material from Erik. That looks like something I might try until I figure a long term solution. Bean 07's solution also looks promising and something that I might look into, but I would like to see the closeups on that one. Nice red machine! Neil's welding job is very cool, I'd say. I wish that I was that ambitious and knowledgable in the welding area and I would go that route, but unfortunately, I'm not. Lastly, I'm going really to look into CoolWipe's solution with Brock's "center stand stop for ZX14." I mean...there it is, if I just want to plunk down the money and solve the problem..like that, which is probably what I will probably do in the end. Hey guys, thanks for all your help. I'm new to forms, but look at what you can accomplish! So here's to meeting on the road somewhere in the middle of nowhere! Brian

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bean07


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/14/13 12:54 AM

Bean 07's solution also looks promising and something that I might look into, but I would like to see the closeups on that one. Nice red machine
I wish I could take a close-up for ya but the bike is gone!All I did was Have the Centerstand in the up positionAnd marked a spot Where it was closest to the Mid-pipe,Top Dead Center then put my hole in to suit Tapping,if ya cant do that just use Locktight/Locknut or double nut so she wont undo!



2006 CBR1100xx with a few mods + V Star 1300A Cobra swept exhaust,Fi2000 EFI,Big air kit, Rad cover/Guard,Forward controls/pegs,Pillion mini boards,screen,rack,Saddleman seat a few chrome bits.

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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/14/13 4:36 AM

I've got a Yosh slip on system and it is good to know what I may possibly get into with a centre stand IE fit and contact issues. Had a centre stand on an FZ 1 I had for a very short time, but it hung out there in a weird way. That said, info and support on this forum is incredible. Saying hello to all and I'm glad this is resolved for you mate!
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filmutah



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/14/13 3:50 PM

Yes Wolf...On a FZ 1 you probably would not want a center stand. But sometime in the future you might want to load up That beautiful green machine and take a trip across to BC and Alberta or even the States. I think that you would appreciate that center stand then. Thanks for your help and comments. Cheers. Brian

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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/14/13 6:20 PM

Love to tour my brotha, two kids and a wife are feeling like a 5 ton anchor right now though!
Maybe when the beard is longer and whiter, I can make my pilgramage and, as you intelligently pointed out, WITH a centre stand!
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azzx


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/15/13 12:05 PM

Please see my question/solution

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=9386BC54-1372-66AE-3BDA7ADE385CE4FF



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Maddevill


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/15/13 2:51 PM

I got a centerstand stop from Brocks. It bolts to the right side near the stand pivot where the belly fairing used to go and stops the stand from coming up so high. I had to weld a little metal on the tab because it would still hit my chain a bit. I have a Yosh full system.

Mad



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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/17/13 1:04 AM

Mad just curious, what did the centre stand stopper cost you at Brocks?
Wolfman







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filmutah



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/17/13 1:18 AM

Wolf:
It was about $36. Okay, if it works. I'll let you know. Brian

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Wolfman



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/17/13 11:30 AM

That's peanuts brotha, keep me posted hope it works for yah man!
Peace Filmutah!







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Maddevill


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/17/13 1:02 PM

Keep in mind that you may have to add some metal to the stop to keep it from letting the stand go up so high. Stock, the Brocks stop let my stand hit the chain. I had a guy weld enough on to make the stand sit a bit lower. It barely rubs the chain when I'm pushing the bike around but not when I am on it. You'll see what I mean when you get the stop.

Mad



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filmutah



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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
04/29/13 9:49 AM

Hello everyone:
I have solved my problem concerning the center stand stop. If you remember Mad Devil told us about the Brock's Performance part. So, I ordered the $36 bolt on part an installed it with little problem. It works great, leaving about 1/4" clearance between the Two Brothers Slip on pipe and the OEM center stand. Thanks to everyone, especially Mad! Wolf, you should get a center stand. It's only a lb. or 2 and you'll love it. Cheers, Brian

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ZX14R


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
06/26/14 9:45 AM

Brock's tells me their center stand stop only fits '06 - '11 ... can anybody confirm that it won't fit the '12 and up ... even with adjusting / modifications?



2013 ZX-14R; Muzzy dual black stainless slip ons; Puig hugger; Center stand (oh yeah!)

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Hub


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
06/26/14 10:06 AM

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=9AF192A5-D56B-84E2-1ADD556B899360F5

Assists

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=9386BC54-1372-66AE-3BDA7ADE385CE4FF

Same centerstand fits the R models. Depends on the eyes and those needed to be elongated or it fits, or the rear change of the R back there says Brock did his homework and there are no holes to mount there, etc. If we had a strap touching the top of the stand, this pushes away any clearance within fractions of an inch. With wrap, we lowered our tip over and my drag the stand before the foot peg.



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ZX14R


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RE: centerstand & Two Bros Exhaust
06/26/14 12:14 PM

Thanks a bunch Hub! I read both of those threads (and many more) this morning, as my center stand just arrived.

Not sure which idea I like better between Neilp's welded on tube idea and azzx's bolted on stop resting against the mid-pipe. I know the center stand rests against the OEM muffler bracket, which seems weird to me.

I'll probably install it and see what I can come up with. I've got a local welder friend-of-a-friend, so I might also let him zip the bracket off the OEM muffler and weld it on to my Muzzy mid-pipe ... but I'm not sure he can weld stainless, will have to check.

Might also end up buy Brock's center stand stop kit to see if I can make that work.

Apparently some guys also find that the foot tab on the left side contacts their mid pipes, so may have to figure that one out, too. Kinda wondering if the local muffler shop that flared my mids' flanges back out after I crumpled them in by trying to install without using the OEM gaskets might be able to put a gently dent in the left-side mid-pipe to allow space for that foot tab. As y'all know the OEM mid-pipes have quite a few crazy little dents and dings pressed in to them at factory.

Will post up whatever I come up with.

Thanks again ...



2013 ZX-14R; Muzzy dual black stainless slip ons; Puig hugger; Center stand (oh yeah!)

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