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Created on: 02/15/14 05:16 PM

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majik455


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installed some goodies
02/15/14 5:16 PM

so i installed a power commander 5 and a speedo healer 4 today. Now I am new to the whole power commander thing and installed the good matching map from power commander but where would i find a good fuel effecent one, not so worred over power loss as this thing is a power monster and it seems i could have 2 maps. I hear of a jeffo map but this seems to be a person who makes maps not really a map. so where do i go to get maps outside of power commander that are safe?

I guess my next question is the speedo healer is weird compared to the older old i used where you flipped 1-7 switches up or down to configure it. does anyone use this thing? i think i figured out how to figure my -6.5 and enter it but how do you switch modes to "un regulated" mode where the speedo is off but the speed is no longer limited?

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RE: installed some goodies
02/15/14 6:22 PM

There is a website I think you can go to get the answers for the speedohealer, just not really that familiar with it. The bonneville box from Muzzy has a "on off" switch not sure is the speedo healer has one.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/16/14 6:20 PM

Now I am new to the whole power commander thing and installed the good matching map from power commander but where would i find a good fuel effecent one, not so worred over power loss as this thing is a power monster and it seems i could have 2 maps.

DJ maps should be safe but IDK if they will give you the best performance. Best fuel economy might also be best performance since leaner maps have lower fuel trims and lean at high rpm produces more hp. Tuning is a complex and mysterious thing though. I hear that the fuel trims selected for a good tune do not always seem logical to the laymen.

it seems i could have 2 maps.

You can have two maps in a PC5. You will need some sort of switch if you want to change on the fly but I am quite certain that DJ designed the PC5 to hold more than one map. There is also a thumb switch with a handlebar mount that you can buy from DJ that can be used as a map switch. I would contact DJ tech support by phone. They will be able to answer all your questions better than anyone.

so where do i go to get maps outside of power commander that are safe?

A good place is the shop where you bought the pipe and or PC. I suggest purchasing from a shop that does tuning so that you can get their map for your bike and setup. they throw in the map for free. You could contact any of these shops and just ask for a map...offer to buy, they might give it away free.


how do you switch modes to "un regulated" mode where the speedo is off but the speed is no longer limited?
There are directions on programming and tables showing the proper +/-% according to tire size gearing and motorcycle on the HealTech website. Unfortunately, the SpeedoHealer cannot be switched to "derestict mode." What you need to do is to set the % way low so that the speedo will never hit 187 mph. If the speedo does not hit 187, the limiter never comes on. Sucks, but you won't see an accurate speed if you do top speed runs with this method of derestriction. EXAMPLE: Set SpeedoHealer to -50%. Now the speedo will read only 50 mph when you are doing 100 mph. If you can get the speedo to hit 100 mph, the bike is actually doing 200. You do not need to go as low as -50% if you don't want but many people suggest the -50% correction just in case the rear wheel looses contact with the ground for an instant. Theoretically the rear wheel could pick up a lot of speed and hit the top speed limiter just hopping off a bump. Grn14 says he only cut his adjustment enough to keep the speedo at 180 mph. Never had a problem accidentally hitting the TSL.

The advantage to the Bonneville is that it derestricts the TSL and shows the correct speedo reading at the same time. I got one waiting to go in my 14. Need to cut a wire to install which I have never been crazy about but I'm getting used to that now that the bike is 5 years old. The Bonneville also weighs about twice as much as the SpeedoHealer.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/17/14 5:47 AM

You can eliminate the top speed limiter with the Speedohealer by setting it so the speedometer reads Zero (minus 100%). At least that's what the directions to mine say.Your bike will then exceed the 185-mph limit, but unless you have a timed course or a radar gun on you, you won't be able to tell the difference. Might be the thing to add a GPS with a speed indicator.


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RE: installed some goodies
02/17/14 6:10 AM

I do not think my bike will do much over 175 with the gearing I have right now so I do not have much need to disable the TSL. I have not played around much with the SH. However, I recall a thread a few years back where disabling the TSL with a SH was discussed. Setting it to -100% would definitely trick the TSL into thinking the bike was not moving over 185 mph. -50% would give you half reading which would be easy enough to read or provide some sort of documentation for video purposes. I agree, if you really are concerned about how fast you went, you need to GPS it. I have an old Garmin that can be set to show a digital display of the mph/kph. It will show the actual speed in almost real time. There is a short delay for calculations while the speed is changing. You get the speed you were at a couple seconds ago which is not quite real time when you are accellerating, of course. IOW, the GPS will show your actual speed but you need to hold it for at least 4 seconds to wait for the most recent calculation.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/17/14 11:42 AM

Advantage Bonneville, Rook I put mine in in a very short time, like 20 minutes and that included soldering the wire back in that you have to cut, its no big deal plus you get instant accurate reading at the speedo all the time.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/17/14 5:47 PM

yup, I have to get mine on there. The SpeedoHealer will go on the busa. Its TSL is not triggered by the speedo . I think it is the tach and the gear indicator that trips the busa's TSL. You install an X-TRE (also made by Healtech) to the busa to disable the TSL and it also gives you a few extra top end ponies.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 7:27 AM

Yep I got a tre on my busa and the bottom end and top end I feel a difference, the Bonneville is very easy to set up, all you need is a small screwdriver and a gps(downloaded to my android)and go ride.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 10:58 AM

GPS? hmmmm- I presume the GPS is to check the precise speed so you know the Bonneville speedo correction is accurate.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 2:37 PM

thank you for the help and answers everyone.

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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 4:57 PM

Rook yep that I found a good one on my apps, I checked it against my garmin and it was spot on with it and it was easier to carry on my bike since I don't have a mount.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 4:57 PM

Rook yep that I found a good one on my apps, I checked it against my garmin and it was spot on with it and it was easier to carry on my bike since I don't have a mount.



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RE: installed some goodies
02/18/14 5:27 PM

Cool. I think I can make up some sort of mount that will work with my GPS.

thank you for the help and answers everyone.

majik, I have only used the Healtech website to calibrate my Speedohealer. It seems to be very accurate according to how my speedo compares with the speed of surrounding traffic. Also checked it with those roadside radar signs and its is right on. You can use a GPS to check it too. I doubt if any speedo correctr will be perfectly accurate from 0 -200. I'm most concerned with accuracy 70mph and lower.



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