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Created on: 01/01/11 10:26 AM

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Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 10:26 AM

Oh, there you are, blue. Hey, remember that guy wanting apology about brake chatter? We going back and forth like a hole in a submarine about you wearing out the brake carrier threads on the forksandshit. Sandupandeliver. Yeah, you be drinking yourself silly wrecking liver wondering what this is all about.

I have here my ball and chain I have to deal with for decades, she's boiling eggs for the parade. Well, that was last night. I said, leave me one boiled egg and you can have the rest, I'm making a test. She pencil marks her eggs and now the argument begins.

The personal bet to myself was a 3rd party telling me how they want their eggs boiled. Not only that, I happen to hear the same process of boiling eggs on some cooking show I walk in to serve someone lunch/dinner-who remembers. All I remember was the same egg boiling time and now do I hear, TIME?

So, here I carry the pan back to the stove. I see the egg a little light in water level but I will get back to that. She, with here eggs, tosses ice in a bowl with cold running water and 5 other eggs. This morning, she's frosting orange yummy over puffyboy; the bacon is sizzling, I'm popping off cork. Next comes the practical-theory-abstract she has to put up with, she makes science in her world and I just want an answer in my tiny circle.

Her theory goes; I place the eggs in the water so the egg contracts from the shell and it is easier to remove, plus it is better to boil older eggs so the shell and shit comes off and OK, I got the abstract and boy here it cums on your ass lady!

I said I wanted to remove said gray matter in egg and the 3rd party would reject your egg and starve I need to get the TIMING RIGHT! By the time I watched her [me, in high anticipation] listening to her show me how the egg shell left the egg intact and 'Then Came [the slice down the middle like] Bronson' did it come.

The moment she half'dat egg, I chased that gray ring all the way around the yoke. Then the abstract back in your face began. I said to look at that gray and did you not... And there I was interrupted and was told she was not making, "restaurantypeggs" was the comment. I then proceeded to take the unmarked egg and made sure she rolled that egg in her hands, we were on the same page [or egg] as it were.

That egg started to roll in my hand now, like a brake lever can and she was just peeling off rubber on the... I got carried away with my abstract. And when I caught just enough to separate the shell as one whole piece, I said my egg was in the pan still cooking and I did not ice-release my shell- HELLO! I then asked what was up with her theory if I pulled shell without her theory was more jerking her chain slack.

I then cut my egg in half and then pointed out the science to the teacher. She being a teacher and all that, did not want to hear my science. I then explained how I answered my own question as I saw [gray] and no shit! Where the egg was not fully submerged but that part of the egg cooling off too soon; brought on the gray matter of fact!

And that simple science brings me back to tire chatter not brake matter. I have a HUGE case of brake chatter and that front tire is now too scary-hairy for me to hook it in a turn or chase squid up the rockstore. LOL

If she wants an apology because all her gray egg yoke is the joke is not on me, fella wanting apology. I think you have egg on your face and guy...


IT IS NOT MY FAULT EYE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT WAS ONE SHITTY TIRE TO CHANGE = NO MORE FRONT WHEEL CHATTER ~ Hello! Now she is back boiling eggs to fry you wanting some ragheadie dear me... Cha Ching'D! YOU DIDIE DID! OFF WIT YOUR DICK ass it were!



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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 1:07 PM

You have major brake chatter Hubster?If that's WOT ur saying.... ,IDK what to say.Mine only went away after sandpapering(the rotors) and refacing the pads.Twice on the pads.It still never actually went away.I looked on some of the brake websites about "care and feeding"...most said the pads glazed....and in two instances of mine,the chatter was reduced to a minimum by refacing those pads.But she never was like new.I've installed a new set of EBC pads and rotors....haven't been out yet.Come ride time....it'll be interesting to see just how well these guys work.Fingers crossed.

I think that's WOT u were talking about?Happy New Year Hubster!

I think...correct me if I'm wrong here...with a chattering brake condition,over time,the tire's gonna "maybe?" develope some odd wear on it...then ya got TWO issues instead of one?


I'm still fearing for your safety Bro...chasin squids with ONLY a front brake!I've been to the Rockstore...some wicked turns up in them thar hills.


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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 5:12 PM

That is WOT I am saying, blue. I installed new brake pads, OEM. I also installed fresh tires and right now I can't find my owner's manual, being we painted and carpeted the house. It will pop up. Between you and your honesty about the chatter not going away on the scrub, I sort of mentioned I could feel that chatter muffled with a new tire.

And you figure I do not use the rears so that is 100% front tire scrub, where the step of that tire just brings that chatter right back. I mean, in my way of thinking egg boiling or the dot4 boiling, that tire is done. The chatter is on like donkeyKong and someone wants an apology I got it wrong?

If throwing on new pad after 15k or there about, I do not expect the pads to apologize to me but that front tire is one chattering nightmare I ramp speed it down from my average 100+. I would think that front is accelerating that stepping [wear] fenom. And just so leg man has something to think about later on when the pain strikes, that freak'inn bike was flying airborne way too many times, where I ran out of room, the rpm's were not even close to redline; I'm goofing with a 200TonClubber for a buck, me trying to hold on. I didn't catch the speed, just the rpm.

These last few days I've gone silly [faster] than ever! It's more a short sprint, meaning. Can't open her up without climbing up someone or the road vanishes; it is that gobbled up. But to have that HP/torque to accel you even quicker... When we're young! Hello! Bring on the petite 14!

All I'm trying to clear in my head are those gray eggs and mine all yellow in yoke is that joke. Out of those 3 amigos not starting bike, it's usually one or the other. The same thing, if you were following privateer and his heat exchange; though he did add it's more than just thermometer readings. But the point there is that it is one, not the other. And to say the pads are the pressure is to say the brake pads create the chatter.

Then, WOT do I do with my pads and new tire showing me different. My new tires cleared the chatter 3 times on the same set of pads I never touched, pulled out of caliper, etc. Here I am with mule trying to work that apology in for that guy. It ain't working out for him, I just wanted to clear the egg in the face.

OH yeah, ya ready for this one? She boils eggs till the water boils out. Ever walk in the kitchen see a few blown up eggs after the water... Never mind.



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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 6:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M2tD_d97sk&feature=related


Found him!



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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 7:19 PM

Wow, let the music move you Lol.

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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/01/11 10:09 PM

Hmmm..actually...one day when I was a youngster...I got drunk.Came home to Mom's.Put my 3 eggs in the one boiling basket.Next thing is...I wake up.Smoke all over.Get up,rush to the stove...water...oopps...gone baby...eggs....ooops,well friggin done.Even killed my pet parakeet from smoke inhalation.Ya...I know about hard boiled eggs.

Anyway...you are running only front.Don't know how you use your brakes...for EVERY STOP,but thats gotta take a toll on tires eventually I would think.She's well over 560 lbs with the rider(not counting momentum)...lotta weight to be making spirited stops with a front tire.I don't know if anyone ever really determined if the stock rotors were warping or not...seems Kawi WAS replacing some in certain cases.Sanding won't get the warp out IMO.But like I said,my re-sanding the pads definitely reduced the judder.It never really went away.Even with new pads.I think once a hot spot gets into the rotor material,it just stays that way until.....

And I also think that if you were to correct the brake judder issue,with a new tire,it could be possible to wear your front tire in such a way as to create another juddering situation depending on just HOW you rode with your front tire.Low pressure?High pressure?slow in,fast out.Braking midcorner.So many things could cause a tire to begin not staying smooth.Ambient temps...emergency stops.Tire manufacturer.SO MANY VARIABLES.You can't do it with yours...but if you could possibly brake ONLY WITH YOUR REAR for one new tire cycle,then it would be interesting to see if any type of juddering occurred.Course,that's kinda dumb I guess...cause you'd never really know UNLESS you used the front to see what it was doing.

Throw in the braking pressure at the lever...and you have a real combo of possibilities.I can only say...I've got all new hardware on my frontend now.Come Spring...it'll be interesting to see how this stuff performs.I'm gonna bed em in just as their instructions say.Kawi gives NO instructions.Which is really kinda...well..unthinking?They tell ya "how to ride the motorcycle"...ya...but not how to bed in your expensive brakes.Uh...okay.Whatever.When ya see how many guys have had brake smoothness issues..you'd think this one area would be something Kawi would want yer average buyer to know.Guess not....they like sellin brakepads and rotors!


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RE: Wear OUT IS HE, blue!
01/02/11 12:32 PM

It has to be the rider not parts. I'm just goofing where you need to show me where my warp rotors are if I 100% stop on them. No 50/50 here but full on brake the piss out of them and now show me parts or slow me squid needing a round of discs.

Same goof with the weights of oil.

Same goof with the tre.

Same goof with carbon loss.

Same goof with the 7-UPs at the vette site.

Same goof with the VOES seminar.

Same goof with OUT pulling pad and cement scrubbing the noise/chatter.

Same goof with the chatter you still fell that tire come round 360° all pulsing that step.

Sure ain't wave warp.

Sure ain't my hand wave.

Sure asshit I gotta go peeTTuneYa!



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