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Created on: 03/22/16 08:59 PM

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Dynojet map switch
03/22/16 8:59 PM

Anybody know if the Dynojet map switch is a simple close/open loop or is there some resistance or? Would love to make my own vs the $50 they charge!



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/22/16 11:40 PM

I have one. It's pretty nice but way overpriced. The plastic body has an eyelet for mounting the switch. Has a long harness and the same type covering material of the main pc harness. No, no LED light or resistor. Just a plain old on/off switch. I have the pc toggle harness snaked in and out of the main harnesses and let it dangle for the one pc. I use a NAPA automotive type metal toggle for the other pc.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/23/16 1:09 AM

I was just asking a DJ tech support guy last week about switching maps using the handle bar switch made by DJ. He said YES...or any other switch, it doesn't have to be the DJ switch. Kind of seemed like he was asked pretty often if the DJ switch was the only switch to use since he volunteered the info without being asked.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/23/16 8:27 AM

Awesome thanks guys. I am going to research some cool looking toggle switch to wire up. I hate to be restricted.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/25/16 9:01 AM

I am going to research some cool looking toggle switch to wire up. I hate to be restricted.

Dyno Jet switch is overpriced but very clean and neat.

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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/25/16 9:57 AM

No, no LED light or resistor. Just a plain old on/off switch.

Dyno Jet switch is overpriced but very clean and neat.

Looks nice. At first glance that looks like a click in/out button but I see it's a small rocker type switch. I would want something that I could verify by touch and sight because there could be some applications where the wrong map could mean disaster.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/26/16 7:33 AM

I ordered this but since realized if the map switch is dry the led isn't going to work.

led toggle switch



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/27/16 8:24 AM

I'm curious what "the map switch is dry" means. Is it that this is a switch that toggles from one to circuit to another rather than an on/off switch?



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/27/16 4:17 PM

Correct. It's just a single on/off, no need for the 3 leg switch, just cover it. No that you can't set it up with this leg, but either way, cover the other leg. I think it might be hot? I just fingernail polish a red dot for the hot[ON] and ignore what the switch stamping says. So wire wise for this particular switch; hot is the one leg to a light say so that is always on. Then toggle to the 20a side leg and this now hots a fan. So you turned the light off, switched to the fan going on; thinking I think you figured out that style of switch function.

As far as pin location on the pc, looking at the 2 left extension ports, jump over the harness and starting from left to right: Input 1 is hot 0.18v, and the next pin to the right is Input 1 (-) side. 3rd pin from the left is: Input 2 [0.18v] and the 4th pin from the left is Input 2 (-). Therefore, we toggle to 20a, we know that has 0.18v at that leg is my guess. Not the best choice of finding a use for 0.18v but well covered over so no map comes on again somehow.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/27/16 9:10 PM

Thanks, Hub. I'm going with he DJ switch. Since a toggle switch is always ON no matter which way you flip it, I suppose you could have a blue LED tapped in on the left position of the switch and a red LED on the right (provided you could identify the + wire for each position). That way, you have an indicator for which map is selected--as long as you can remember which color means what---and as long as you are not too color blind. Ooo--is this gonna be FUN!


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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/28/16 7:32 AM

Here is the $5 solution.... You will have to extend the wires most likely but think this could work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-8-Motorcycle-Bike-Scooter-Handlebar-Headlight-ON-OFF-Kill-Stop-Switch-/121831563637?hash=item1c5dba2175:g:p1YAAOSwHQ9WYQiN&vxp=mtr



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/28/16 8:44 AM

I have less than average electronics knowledge but to me that switch seems like it opens or closes a circuit instead of toggling between two circuits. I guess an on/off would work to switch to map 2 if the PCV will go back to map 1 by default when the circuit for map2 is shut off. My guess is that's how the DJ switch works. If there were two inputs for switching maps, then a toggle switch would be necessary. Probably a toggle switch functions as an on/off if you use it for switching maps.



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To Configure A Dynojet Map Switch
03/28/16 8:49 AM

Also remember: I have to configure my quickshifter wires going to either map 1 or map 2. So I have to enter tools-config-walk the rest of the reconfigure as to what map you are looking at for the wire-up. Same reconfigure for the switch and how you use it for autoT.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/28/16 10:04 AM

to me that switch seems like it opens or closes a circuit instead of toggling between two circuits.

Right so far.
I guess an on/off would work to switch to map 2 if the PCV will go back to map 1 by default

There is this flipflop and both are still using the same integrated chip out of those screw pins.
when the circuit for map2 is shut off. My guess is that's how the DJ switch works.

They are handcuffed to the parts inside so this flip, flops over to the other map more or less.
If there were two inputs for switching maps, then a toggle switch would be necessary.

There is: 1-1 and 2-2. If I configure, I kill the map with the shift. The other way is auto reflash my base map.
Probably a toggle switch functions as an on/off if you use it for switching maps.

Kill - Configure.
AutoT - Configure.
Switch - Configured I'm in base map 1-1 so I run base 1 map. I saved an autoT map, sent it to map 2 as base map 2. I am open at my 1-1 wires and am running base map1. I close the toggle so 1-1 are connected to each other, map2 is now flipped over to being read as the map data. 1-1 is killed as in grounded like the shifter so the other side goes hot in the flop so now the other map defaults or you lit it up on the flip of the toggle, grounded the other and look at that 3prong switch acting the same exact way in a sense.

Flop = Map 1 [no. 1-1 pins connected to 0.18v and (-)] ~ OPEN
Flips = to Map 2 [pins 1-1 made a mechanical (wires connect) ie, magnetic switching to] CLOSED.

Flips = Map 2 [no. 2-2 pins connected to 0.18v and (-)] ~ OPEN
Flops = to Map 1 [is to spread your fingers out and only 4 flipflops at the thumb to pinky, thumb to thumb, etc.]

So if I use my thumbs as 0's and my pinky's as 1's, I just laid out 4 binary combinations of E speak 1100 or 1010, or 0011 and you get the idea of 4 pins at the pc are doing this numbering kind of data change in the binary speak. And for argument sake, I pulled those binary numbers out of a hat.

I have less than average electronics knowledge

A few of the basics if you can figure it out. I'm still in a learning curve myself. If 0-0 is ground and 1-1 is hot and both went nowhere, wouldn't 1-0 be connected and so would 0-1? Finger up and find out = HANDCUFFED to the legs of that chip are 1-1 and 2-2 = 4 Legs.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/28/16 8:57 PM

Dry- no voltage

Wet - voltage

So i have a go fast and a fuel mileage map. Was hoping i could get the green light to come on when i was using the gas saver map like an eco button or something. Either way i think i will just give them both a try and settle on one or the other.



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/29/16 12:12 AM



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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/30/16 11:39 AM

Any standard toggle switch will work, Find one to your liking at any local hardware or auto parts store. All you need to do to the switch is to add + voltage to the 3rd wire.. 5, 12 or whatever it requires for the led to come on


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RE: Dynojet map switch
03/30/16 3:44 PM

Thanks, Cas. I hope I can remember that. LOVE those twinkle lights!



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