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Created on: 12/01/12 02:49 AM

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BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 2:49 AM

Ok, I don't wanna start something here so if you're not the kind of individual who can discuss things without getting personal about your 14/14R just stay out the thread.

I remember saying something about the Beemer being able to compete with the 14/14R on the strip with some basic drag racing mods and I remember people saying it wouldn't be so. Well take that!

Guys are talking about going sub 9's
My conclusion is that, at the end of the day you can have all the hp and tq but the determining factor is the power to weight ratio. A funny fact, An Aprilia Tuono beat a ZX-14R in the 1/4. Same rider, same track condition etc.

I still love my 14 and the 14R though lol


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 3:46 AM

I haven't any interest in using my bike for competitive drag racing so my opinion may be of limited value. The impression I have is that the busa and the 14 are THE drag bikes. Yes, other bikes compete with some modification but I do not think there is a clear superiority. The hyperbikes are just best suited for drag racing and LSR. I don't see people on forums jumping up and down about how fast their literbike is in the quarter mile compared to the hyperbikes that are at the strip. If that were so, you better believe there would be a lot of guys dropping their hyperbikes to go with a literbike.

This is a little bit like the idea of making the 14 a track bike. You and I have both gone a long way toward making the 14 as track friendly as possible, but at the end ofthe day, track bike they are not. Same dynamic for liter bikes at the drag strip.

I wish there really was a "do it all" sport bike out there but if you are competitive and your skills are well honed, you go with the best tool for the job to gain an edge. If you want all out power and high speed stability, a hyperbike is what you need.

+ don't forget, a big man sorta has the odds against him in the power to weight game when it comes to motorcycles. A hundred pounds less bike with a hundred pounds more rider???? Mighta been better off to just stay with the big CCs that are made to pull the weight.


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 7:24 AM

Isn't this the old big block vs small block Chevy argument version 2.0? Both had their proponents as to which was best and both set plenty of records but at the end of the day it's what you feel comfortable with. As always a big part of the equation is rider skill, both liters and hypers can be made to go fast at the dragstrip.

Look at it this way, I can hustle down the road just as fast on my peeshooter ZX6R but I have to work a lot harder for it, the big blocks make easy speed.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 8:01 AM

"version 2.0?"......somebody call for me?...LOL!!!Rook's on it.The big birds won't track run as well as the liters....aint gonna happen."primarily Drag racing"...yup....just too much mass to be throwin around.


"the big blocks make easy speed"...perhaps...but you just can't get around the physics of the deal.The big bikes are gonna lose in the transitioning department.....which means,basically,they're gonna be slower overall.


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 8:50 AM

I would think the Bimmer would be a lot tougher to launch than a 14 or 14R with the lighter weight and short wheelbase. Was that fast Tuono a V-twin or a V4? The 4 is a beast.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 9:15 AM

"The project cost him over 30K"....to run 'faster' than a big bore 14 or whatever.9's?....how about 8's?Or 7's.His 999 motor should be able to hit 9's...I would think....fairly easily?IDK...but I don't imagine his 999 engine can last like the bigger ones.That's gonna be a spendy ride when it's all said and done.


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 9:44 AM

I would think the Bimmer would be a lot tougher to launch than a 14 or 14R with the lighter weight and short wheelbase.

I would think so. Launching a literbike would require more finness in slipping the clutch. The 14, you can almost dump it and go and still get a decent run. That is what it was made to do and it does it so well. Novice drag racers can get some pretty fast times after just a few practice runs.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 11:43 AM

I guess the 1000 are evolving fast.

They are and they have. If they hadn't been, I don't think there would be much reason for the 14r at this time.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 12:11 PM

^^^ At 6'5-220 there aren't a lot of sport bikes that are going to fit me but I won't be buying another hyper for a quite a while. Gotta get me a 1000 while I'm still (relatively) young and flexible. I see the attraction for hypers regardless of size though: the average owner being well in its 40's, he/she has the skills to milk every once of performance out of the bike. Guys in their 20's don't care about sport touring or don't have the time, but if you like to go far and go fast hypers are what you need. If I had gotten a 1000 for first bike I would have been known in the local hospital on a first name basis so I'm glad I got the 14.

I wonder if buying a liter and honing my skills on the track are going to make me a better liter rider per say or help me with riding the 14 in the street. Basically, which one is easier? Having fun (not racing) on a track on a liter or riding the 14/14R on a back road? That's without weighting the danger aspect of public roads.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 1:33 PM

Guys in their 20's don't care about sport touring or don't have the time,


I know you didn't ask for advise on this but let me tell you, if you think a guy in his 20s doesn't have time he has a lot less in his 40s. these days, a guy is REALLY lucky to slow down ii his 50s! --60, even!

I wonder if buying a liter and honing my skills on the track are going to make me a better liter rider per say or help me with riding the 14 in the street.

Everyone seems to say that the smaller the bike is you learn on, the better it is for developing skills on all bikes. Whatever you ride that is bigger, the skill will transfer. Not so much in reverse. You learn on a big bike, you never really learn as much as you could have. You prolly learn to be a lot more careful than you would need to on a smaller bike. when you get on your smaller bike, you take that experience with you. \Probably be a safe rider but not have the skills to go as fast as you might have if you learned on the small bike. So i would get as small of a bike as you can stand to ride. I would go with a 600 for myself. also be a lot more different experience than your 14. A liter will be similar in some respects to the 14.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 3:29 PM

I hear 70 is the new age at what people are retiring! lol
Hopefully, by then I will be back in France, life is much slower over there!

I sat on a 750 and even the dealer was laughing so a liter is as low as I can go! It may be easier to ride a 600 but in my opinion the 14 is easier to ride than a 1000. You can be in the wrong gear all the time, the brakes are excellent and that weight refrain you from doing stupid things most of the time. It is true you gotta be careful about your lines etc but the lack of clearance is not knee down inspiring, at least not for me. Also the power you feel on the 14 would make a lot of liters feel tamed.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 6:13 PM

Riding a liter or smaller will make you faster on the 14, Rook is correct, the skills transfer up to the big bores but not the other way around, at least that has been my experience.

BTW, Speaking of literbikes, Jag is MIA, I thought he'd be telling us he picked up that new 10R this afternoon!



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 6:16 PM

I sat on a 750 and even the dealer was laughing so a liter is as low as I can go!

What kind of salesmen is that? I'd be telling you that you looked awesome on that bike if it made the sale....lol!


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 6:22 PM

I just talked to 1Bad, he goes to the dragstrip all the time, is building a 600HP turbo Busa. He says the bikes to beat are Busa's and the older 14s. He saud he saw one stretched BMW and it blew up, he has yet to see a 14R at the tracks he goes to. Like Rookmeister said, guys run what works, what's cheap and available and go-fast parts are readily available. That means Busas and 14s. I'm sure 14Rs will eventually start showing up at the track.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 11:14 PM

You can buy a brand new ZX-14R/Busa and a turbo kit for it for the same (if not less) than a new BMW S1000RR/HP4!



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/01/12 11:32 PM

No surprise there, the Busa is more reliable of you wanna go the turbo route. I just don't believe in moding a bike so much that you have to baby it: too much work if you're not making a living off of winning races. Then again to each their own.

You can buy a brand new ZX-14R/Busa and a turbo kit for it for the same (if not less) than a new BMW S1000RR/HP4!

Most definitely! BUT for me the fun is where the road get twisty and after a few track sessions I would have outgrown the 14. I need a bike that can steer sharper/quicker with better clearance.

@ Kruz: Jag is probably spending some quality time with Mrs Jag. You guys should do a Beemer v.s 14R or ZX-10R v.s 14R on your next outing. I would take you guys word for it but it would be better if the go pro is on!



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 6:36 AM

@ Kruz: Jag is probably spending some quality time with Mrs Jag. You guys should do a Beemer v.s 14R or ZX-10R v.s 14R on your next outing. I would take you guys word for it but it would be better if the go pro is on!

+1 Jag may be in some hot water with the missus right now, all those bikes would have put a dent in just about anyones budget and he has the fever for another. Trust me, we've all been there.

I was thinking more along the lines of S1000RR vs ZX-6R, a back roads brute force versus finesse kind of thing. Might be interesting.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 6:40 AM

I would take you guys word for it but it would be better if the go pro is on!

We'll definitely have it on next time, kicking myself for us not pulling over and mounting the darn thing last run.
It looks like I need to just breakdown and buy one for myself.



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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 6:51 AM

Most definitely! BUT for me the fun is where the road get twisty and after a few track sessions I would have outgrown the 14. I need a bike that can steer sharper/quicker with better clearance.

+1, a straightline turbo bike I'd get tired of real quick, where would you ride it except at the dragstrip? Big HP equates directly o ly to big speed, acceleration has way too many other variables involved like weight transfer, traction levels, chassis pitch control. The motors have outgrown the available tire technology. Michelin et al need to play catch up.

Also what is the point of diminishing return? More and more HP does not automatically equate to lower lap times or better speed down your favorite winding road. It's all about balance and control, integration of braking, turning and accelerating to achieve optimal results. BMW realizes this, look at the new HP4, no more HP than last version, all of the focus is on controllability, dynamic suspension and more traction control levels.


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 8:05 AM

You can buy a brand new ZX-14R/Busa and a turbo kit for it for the same (if not less) than a new BMW S1000RR/HP4!

I just don't believe in moding a bike so much that you have to baby it: too much work if you're not making a living off of winning races. Then again to each their own.

"Baby it", who tells you this, dems swear words lol. "Living from winning races" ??? Race ya for a beer maybe,, te he.

Turbo bikes are a absolute riot. I only put 500 kilo on the New 14R this year because the turbo bike is such a blast to ride. I take it everywhere. Fun Factor X 10. If you guys get a chance take one for a ride, go for it. The smile on your faces won't easily wipe off. I promise. And yes you can ride mine.

I believe bikes are purpose built. Choosing the correct weapon, for what You want it to do, on that given day is where all the Fun comes in. Kruz has all the angles covered. No end to the fun that can be had.

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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 9:44 AM

Hiya Romes...was curious here...what kind of throttle response do you get from your turbo bike?Crisp?Sharp?tire burning?

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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 10:04 AM

I don't own one of those BMW's and will never be able to afford one with their asking price but if you extend this question to all ultra lightweight bikes vs cc's then the ultimate answer of which is superior gets more complicated. GSXR's and ZX10's with a few mods will run with the Busa's and the 14's with waaaaaaaay less horsepower. I just picked up a GSXR1000 because I wanted a lighter bike to play with at the dragstrip. It's 125-150 pounds ligher than the two ZX14's and Busa I already have. With the heavy bikes we were able to 60' with the lightest bikes and MPH with them but just could not 330' with them. We could close the gap by the 1320' but not at the 660' and since 95% of our racing here is 1/8th mile it made sense to me to at least try a 350 pound bike out. I know we have more horsepower than the 1000's I'm referring to but do not have a power/weight advantage and it's tough to get a big truck moving vs a sports car. I think I'm going in the right direction here, especially since we mainly race 1/8th mile but I'll be able to give more insight into this argument once we get to the track with the new bike and put it through its paces.


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 4:10 PM

Hiya Romes...was curious here...what kind of throttle response do you get from your turbo bike?Crisp?Sharp?tire burning?

Grn, I think every day guys have gotten the impression that these bikes are only good for straight line and will buck you off as soon as You throw a leg over. This is so not the case. Outside the whistle of the turbo it rides the same as yours. Where things change is in the brain to wrist. Most bike riders are hard wired to let off the throttle when speed picks up to quick. That being said, you can play all day with that one aspect ratio of a Turbo Bike and have a ball doing it as you never run out of power.

In terms of how the power feels, best way to explain it is, pretend your stock 14 just had it's Red Line power moved down to 5000 RPM. Only diff it never stops pulling for additional 5000.

My bike makes Zero boost until it reaches 4800 RPM on the highway. At this point 1-lb is made. I only notice this one lb if I look down at gauges to see the 1-lb in the display. No Drama, none Zero. Same as yours. Keep reving all the way up the RPM scale, and boost slowly climbs with you, smooth. Same.

Where things change, run the bike at 3500 and Squash the throttle wide open and hang the F.ck on. This is when a load gets placed on the turbo and it will spool from Zero psi to 9lbs in what seems like a blink. The pull from all that torque so early in the RPM is something you have to try to get your head around, and it Never Ever Gets Old. Believe me. You will Love it. If you do not want that hard of a kick try less throttle.

In short, you only have big power if you go looking for it. And if there is a bike out there that is more fun to ride than a boosted 14 I must find it. I hope this removes a bit of the myth. Cheers guys


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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 4:15 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of S1000RR vs ZX-6R, a back roads brute force versus finesse kind of thing. Might be interesting.

Very interesting if back roads were tight.

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RE: BMW 1000RR VS Big CC's
12/02/12 5:13 PM

I took the 6R back up to St Jo this morning to get an apples to apples comparison, same road, liter vs 600. On the tighter sweepers 70 to 90 mph, it is much easier to ride than a liter. Once you start getting up into the 100 to 140 mph corners you start missing the extra power coming off the turns.

This is all academic now, I got nailed by A DPS trooper on the way home. My rode riding days may be over for awhile, at least those roads.



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