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* Last updated by: Auron on 11/4/2015 @ 8:40 PM *

Cheers but all I actually need are a pair of fork caps; i know ,04,05,06,07 would all fit; someone attacked mine with a pair of stilsons!! Such a shame cos the bike is in fantasyic condition,only 2 owners,13,020 miles,all 3 keys and masses of paperwork.I just hope someones got a good pair for sale out there somewhere!!

Auron it's not that they couldn't fit it's that in most cases the engine case on the 14R is a little taller and the headers actually hit the bottom of the engine case. I've seen pics of that too. The engine case is the main difference in whether they fit, and if the Gen 1 pipes are "deep" enough they'll fit. The other factor is diameter of the pipes, Gen 2 calls for larger diameters due to the increased displacement.

Yosh's current R77 fits were designed for Gen 2 but then also backwards compatible with Gen 1. I believe that people have successfully installed the Gen 1 Ti pipes on Gen 2s as well.

I was told over and over it wouldn't fit. All I want to do is mount the older pipes that look better and don't have a cat.

The question is, how will it run with that set-up? I'd be happy to trade some mid-range for top end. Ivan has had better success with the older pipe because the 14R's are just so damn big/fat

* Last updated by: Auron on 11/5/2015 @ 7:43 AM *

See this thread of mine.

http://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=60DF78D1-9634-3CE6-1CECB8D1E31DF5B9

Auron, good to know. To answer your question from your previous post. I tried to put my 08 headers on my 2014. Unfortunately I didn't take photos.
The problem I had was in the bend of the headers at the front of the sump. It rubbed/jammed up against the bolt. Admittedly I never tried 06 headers. There could well be a difference in length.

* Last updated by: untamed on 11/5/2015 @ 12:01 PM *

Thats so weird. Did you try to mount the pipes? I did not because id need to buy some

Well sir, if you can see why I questions things so much. I have no first hand knowledge to back up what I said. Just going by what others have said.

Untamed might have a point, maybe different years have been altered slightly.

Thats so weird. Did you try to mount the pipes? I did not because id need to buy some

Yes sir. My experience came from quite a bit of experimenting and modifying the original exhausts to pretty much get the same set up as aftermarket but at a fraction of the costs. Which I got pretty close to on my 08. None the less I had the sense to not experiment on my original exhaust but bought a set to modify. I still had the original exhaust off my 08 which I kept.
I mounted them on my 14R and all looked good until I tightened up the bolts on the engine side. That's when it rubbed up against the engine at the bottom. It's only on one pipe. The rest clear the motor. Double checked they are not bent?

If I measure them it looks to be around 5-6mm shorter than the 14r headers. There is also a slightly different construction to the 14r headers. As stated by Vic the gen 1 pipes are thinner, they also have a different configuration where all four pipes meet. Not sure if this makes a difference in the shape or clearance. Might be why they changed it for the 14r so as to make it clear the engine.

However if you haven't bought any yet, see if you can buy them on the basis of returning them if they don't fit. I found there are quite a few dealers with original headers lying in the back of their shops from customers who changed to aftermarket.

* Last updated by: untamed on 11/5/2015 @ 10:05 PM *

I'm tempted top shave that bolt down or replace it with a flat one. I think if you ever have to disassemble the bottom end you are going to have a lot bigger problems that getting that bolt out :)

Auron there is no cat in the mid pipe for the California or Us versions of the 2012 plus Zx14. The cats are only in the stock end pipes. So you don't need to change the header or mid pipe.