Im back on the bike going through rehab with my wrist from the accident. I want to start wheeling the bike just to mes around with the bike. This discussion is not Noob discussion. Just a general. I haven't regained strength in my wrist 100%. But my ? is when u guys wheelie is it power, or is it Clutch. I'm apprehensive of clutch because I don't want the skin to touch the asphalt anymore. How is the power delivery on the clutch. My bike is stalk gearing. Just now getting back to draggin the foot and knee around corners, but yet VERY APPREHENSIVE to bringin her on one. Any advice or suggestions?

P.S. I know your going to say wait until ur 100% healed, but if I dont do it now. I never will.
Thanks for the info

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Clutch up’s are a safer way to wheelie but I want to warn you that the 14 does not like long wheelie’s it starves the engine of oil! I recommend that if you want to start stunting go get a CBR600 F4i for cheep and get a stunt cage for it and a pizza sized rear sprocket!

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clutch on the 14, so far, all previous 1000's throttle wheelies, i aint a fan of clutch
turn off ktrc

* Last updated by: motero on 7/6/2012 @ 5:35 AM *

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Nice low power wheelies are possible with stock gearing even though the bike is designed to not wheelie as easily as some of the smaller bikes. first gear, roll up to bout 30 mph, cut throttle then go WOT. If you open it fast enough, it will lift up at around 8-9 K rpm. Too easy on the throttle and it just hits the rev limiter. I never had the balls to shift up to 2. Ease off on the throttle and it comes down soft.

wheelie practice, first 1:00

geared down a little, I have gotten some small wheelies totally by accident. The coolest feeling I ever have had was coming over a small rise and shifting up then coming down the other side on the back wheel. If I were going to practice wheelies again, I would try a a little clutch along with some WOT.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/6/2012 @ 5:45 AM *

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my gsxr 1000 k3, would power wheelie in 1st 2 nd all day very easily, in3rd with a passenger you could get it up on throttle at approx 80mph,
the trick with a heavier bike is timing, bounce the forks, load/ unload

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My 1k would power wheelie all day long. This big mofo won't. Plus I'm a big guy. I need to get back messing around with the clutch a little bit. I want to be able to ride it out. The on/off wit isn't working. Almost as if she's not made to. The only time I have wheelied is WOT racing. I want to start exercising the clutch. But as stated earlier apprehensive to the amount of power the big girl has.
Rook, with us having the same exhaust do you smack when landing wheelies?
Is it me or is stock gearing a little long in the first couple of gears.

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She does it pretty easily if you have a good map and good exhaust, removing the flies provide the extra needed grunt... that's why busas wheelie so easily. Check youtube you'll see 14s doing big wheelies.

Oh and for clutch wheelies I read 2nd gear around 6-7k is the sweet spot

* Last updated by: dragking on 7/6/2012 @ 6:30 PM *

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My 2008 will pull the front if I twist hard so I don't do it BUT I have no problem skimming the front on the concrete for a while.

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My 07 popped right up at the right rpm and forward speed.I personally was a bit afraid of trying to wheelie her in second and powering up.I tried a few times...but...didn't trust myself.This 14R...now THIS baby will wheelie...very easily....I have to admit...I've only tried wheelying her in 1st and with the KTRC off only a couple of times.Just for safety's sake..this KTRC will save yer ass....you better know how to feather that throttle if you intend on staying on two wheels for any length of time(or rear brake)without that KTRC.I never could get my confidence up enough to keep the throttle 'pinned' for liftoff torque and manipulate the rear brake to adjust the loft height. For some guys..it's a natural.Not me.

No KTRC...it'll seriously surprise ya once she gets at 4K.....but your zx..it'll pop up if ya use the suspension to help ya get er started.I used to be able to roll on in 1st,and hit about 4k or so...then punch it.....she came right up VERY FAST.Hell..unless a guy's really into that or has a real gift for balance...or lots of money to spend if things go wrong...I'm not that guy.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 6:05 PM *

When I had my 16/43 gearing man it would fly off the ground in first.I never had the balls to keep it past 7500 in first.Plus I don't want to oil starve it with long wheelies.
Craig

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The BW II comes right up if you wind first gear, kinda like my old H1. My friend, who has a silver '08 said it was because of the high bars I have, so I laid on the tank and did it again. I don't like to do it a lot because I fear I'll fuck up the steering head bearings or separate a front tire carcass.

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Remember Danno...it's the landing that fucks shit up Get that down...yer golden.(And I'm pointing my fingers at myself as I speak).Fine line between.."man..that was sweet' and 'Oh shit"...I stopped pushing my luckLOL!!! Got the bike with the KTRC....problemo solvedROFL!!!!!!!Landings...smooth as glass baby....so smooth,even a cave man can do it

I must say...if a guy hasn't really wheelied his bike...this KTRC gives the security to get on it...and manipulate the throttle long enough to actually LEARN how to get the right balance of power and throttle.VERY nice.FUN.Not worrying about doin the floppy fish with my bike.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 9:23 PM *

samurai wheelie

just check the other one as well... one guy was saying he does 50 mph in 2nd clutch in till 10k rpm then pop it and twist the throttle and voila the best way to come out of a corner or announce your arrival at Bike night!

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Almost as if she's not made to.

I think that is the key. The powers there but the bike is made to be stable at high speed. The shorter wheelbase nd light weight of the 600s make them great at cornering but and the result (for better or worse) is that they wheelie easy.

Rook, with us having the same exhaust do you smack when landing wheelies?

Nope. I've never had the front up more than maybe 6 inches. The hardest landing I ever had was softer than some of the bumps I have hit on our roads. Recently shifted up cresting a small hill and felt the front lift and wiggle a bit, then replant without any serious head shakes. I haven't ever felt anything close to a tank slapper. Still think a steering damper is a good safety net to have in place for doing wheelies.

that's why busas wheelie so easily.

They have an inch longer wheel base than the gen 1 14. I road my busa this weekend. It's completely stock. I haven't tried wheelies with it yet but as far as I can recall, doesn't seem any more wheelie prone than my 14 was when it was stock. You can feel it want to skim in certain situations but seems like I would really need to try to get it to come off the ground.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/9/2012 @ 5:55 AM *

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They have an inch longer wheel base than the gen 1 14. I road my busa this weekend. It's completely stock. I haven't tried wheelies with it yet but as far as I can recall, doesn't seem any more wheelie prone than my 14 was when it was stock. You can feel it want to skim in certain situations but seems like I would really need to try to get it to come off the ground.

They'll both wheelie just fine with a little finesse. I ride with a Busa and he wheelies at will. Tried mine and pulled a 10 clock for like a block, he also did a power wheelie pretty easily (his first time riding the bike).

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he also did a power wheelie pretty easily (his first time riding the bike).

ok that did it. now I have to get out there and do some WOT.. It was all in town riding and highway two up last weekend on the busa. I must admit I've been a bit timid to nail it on the 14 with the 45T rear. Iv'e felt it snap up a bit when hitting a small bump that triggered a accidental sudden throttle input. That was probably third gear ~7K rpm. I'm chicken to go WOT with the 14 in first gear.

Seems like the busa has a bit shorter stock gearing. Higher revs at lower speeds.

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Elroy, most of us prolly instinctively want to flatten down on the tank when on the throttle hard. If you can get yourself to sit up that shifts your weight back and the front will lift easier. It is a good idea to cover the rear brake in case you need to drop the front wheel. I have never needed to use the brake but if you start using the clutch, that might be necessary to prevent a loop over. Be careful, man.

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Since the 14 is heavier than a liter, it's safer to pull wheelies me think. I went from 4-5k to wot last winter in 1st and I've gotta admit I got a little scared, I went back to pulling little wheelies here and there until that day when I took the wife for a ride, I was going up a hill= big wheelie. She got scared and pulled me back with her so as soon as the front wheel landed it went back up for a bigger wheelie. Didn't notice how high the wheel was but for sure the tank was all in my face lol

She used to do small wheelies but since I pulled the flies...

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Your Busa Rook DOES have different gearing for sure.18 frt..back..43.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/9/2012 @ 4:11 PM *

I was riding with Hadrid awhile back.He was in front and a dip I used to hit on a ZRX and produce a mild wheelie.Well right before I hit it I down shifted to third and just nailed it.Oh my God I had to stand on the pegs so it didn't flip over.Man it came up like a motorcross bike over a jump.Won't be doing that anytime soon.My ZRX was so easy to ride on one wheel,just like my Z1000.
Craig

* Last updated by: audioboyz on 7/9/2012 @ 4:12 PM *

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When we left the gas station in WV you showed off for that farmer along the road too.

;)

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The bike wheelies on its own. My wrist is a little weak to have the sudden snap of the clutch but power wheelies "going up" is the feeling I get. When you have a full exhaust it feels as if the engine is going to come out of the exhaust. It roars so loud. The power brings it right up. Clutch will be next month

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ever since my little brush with the law a couple years back I have been reluctant to try any wheelies. As you can see in the vid, a power wheelie will happen but without any clutch, it will be at pretty high speed. Prolly a reckless driving or display of acceleration offense. Def don't need that.

Was on the 14 for a dry out run last night after washing the wheels and rotors. Nice and dark. no popo anywhere. Went past the kids Mom's house. They are home from vacation. one block=~500 feet. I ran it to ~ 30 mph in 1st gear, cut throttle for a quick decel and nailed it. Half throttle or a bit more maybe, the front lifted up musta been about 7-8K. Had plenty of room to slow down. before the intersection. Just my way of saying "HI" to the kids. It's loud as hell but they know it's me.

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throw a 45 tooth on the rear, elroy. I believe it will fit with a stock length chain. will shorten your wheelbase to minimum and give you a lot more dig. You'll wheelie all over the place if you want. no more 190 mph runs though. prolly do 160 170.

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Popped my first last night...
Pulled up to a stop and a second later some dude pulls up next to me in my lane and politely says hello. I never had a biker get in my territory like this b/f, but maybe he was checking out my bike. Seemed like a nice guy of middle eastern decent. Think he was on a 600 Katana with carb issues. Anyhow, we both start rolling and I was trying to gauge whether he would get on it, but his bike was just burbling and my ZX was humming. Still in 1st doing about 30 mph so far. I let him pull up ahead of me and then I nailed it pretty hard. To my surprise the bird lifted of the ground almost immediately and as I passed him on one wheel his mouth opened up as if to say Ahh ... Alah but its anyones guess. So, my previous attempts to power wheelie were not successful b/c my throttle was not as aggressive, or the RPMs were too low. Anyhow, that was fun but logic tells me that a 43 year old man with a bold spot should be a bit more mature. Fck maturity.
BTW: I have installed a 43 tooth about a month ago and definitely spin the engine faster now.

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