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Created on: 08/11/10 01:13 PM

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Fuzz4141



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Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 1:13 PM

Thought this was interesting....

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/canada/2010/08/10/14978686.html

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planetZX



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 1:27 PM

yikes..in the UK its the cameras that get you..now people read something on line and report it..

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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 2:50 PM

Hope he wasn't exAGERATing or plain old lieing. He must have included his name and lic plate # as part of the details in the post.

Has anyone seen the movie Minority Report?



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 2:51 PM

....or Ray Bradbury's Brave New World?



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 9:02 PM

Speeding on an open empty highway and speeding through a residential neighborhood...
Totally different.
That idiot deserves what he got and more.

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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/11/10 9:27 PM

1984

Everything you read on the internet is TRUTH

TRUTH is the internet.

Doubleplusungood.

We are members of an online community. The internet is a place known as cyberspace.

Stay near your computer at all times.

when you need to , bring your laptop.


Place 100% trust in your computer. Your computer cannot lie to you or anyone else.

Everything you experience on the net is REAL.


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 6:47 AM

Jesse1212
said "Speeding on an open empty highway and speeding through a residential neighborhood...
Totally different.
That idiot deserves what he got and more."
Gotta agree.
Our ability and right to go fast will end with crap like this event. You could kill some kids or mothers (Bad enough)and then get a law passed that no bike can be sold that can go more than 40 over the speed limit. Bad facts make for bad laws.



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Fuzz4141



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 1:29 PM

I agree wat an idiot, speeding in residential is a no no.... I just thought it was interesting that they found him guilty w/out someone witnessing him do it, just his admission on a forum.... come on guys fib on here all the time!!! Take Badninja for instance he is aparently the fastest man in the world on his bike (when its not broke!) and is better than everyone else at everything!!!

We all know the truth he rides a pink Vespa!!! LOL

Cheers Bad!!


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 1:32 PM


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 2:27 PM

I just thought it was interesting that they found him guilty w/out someone witnessing him do it, just his admission on a forum....

There is a link to the forum post from your link, Fuzz. His written confession included details about an old guy standing on a corner with a paper and pencil that he raced passed. I would have to think that was someone who saw the same car at the same time and perhaps got a lic # and reported it. That alone is not proof but if the owner of the car has the same story, that would start to look rather conclusive.


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 2:34 PM

Fuzz4141 said
"I just thought it was interesting that they found him guilty w/out someone witnessing him do it, just his admission on a forum"

There is a legal concept called corpus delecti which stands for the notion that you can not be convicted by your words alone. There must be some corroborating evidence or testimony. He must have been without a lawyer or he must have been faced with other evidence other than his statements. It is a concept that is from the old English common law and I doubt if it is different in Canada as they have the same legal roots.
So I would not be afaid of your words alone. If you have a photo of you breaking the law or an idenitifed witness or give a time and place that allows local law enforcement officers to find witnesses then you could have some concerns.

For the most part there is no interest in pursuing bikers in forums for speed talk unless it is very dangerous conduct. You put famlies or kids in danger then you are looking for enforcement action.


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Fuzz4141



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 3:59 PM

Rook... ya I never read the forum post.... guess I shud have!! Still odd tho it was an American that reported it from the forum and not the "old guy" on the corner... I guess the boys in blue did some neighbourhood inquiries and found the old guy who may have been able to identify the vehicle.... but still identity of the driver wud be an issue if he was going that fast... even if he admits to it wud still may be hard to convict... not saying its a bad thing that he got convicted I think its great!!!

Alaska yes in Canada it wud be similar you wud need evidence to support the allegations ie; a witness to the offence... they must have found the "old guy" as their witness or other residents!! I am sure its not the first time they saw this retard doing this through their neighbourhood its a pretty noticeable car!! I wud have thrown a rock or something at him as he went by!!

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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 5:51 PM

but still identity of the driver wud be an issue if he was going that fast...

the driver was an 18 year old kid and it does not sound like he was the hardened type at all. I'm sure he went to pieces as soon as the authorities informed him that they had a witness and several complaints that all identified him. He might have given a verbal confession on the spot. Probably going to be a hard lesson for him but I imagine he will be a lot more selective in the future.


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 6:26 PM

So then I'm in trouble... (that avatar aint my bike).


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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/12/10 6:49 PM

He was convicted because he plead guilty. Probably some kind of plea bargain. Never never admit guilt period, make them prove it.

In criminal court unlike civil court the charges must be proven.

I would have said I was just lying to make it sound good on the forum and included the little details to make it more believable.



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
08/13/10 2:48 AM

Blue07, that's what a ZX14 speedo must look like! Love it.



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RE: Online speed bragging FYI
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