I have a REALLY dumb question here....when fully applied(front and rear)....ABS will stop(prevent) ANY skid on a regular surface,yes?
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Created on: 10/17/12 02:39 PM
Replies: 12
Grn14
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privateer
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hagrid
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RE: ABS
10/17/12 4:32 PM
I will put forth that on a loose surface, if you change the scooters attitude to something other than the line IT wants to follow, no amount of "keep the wheels from locking" is going to save you.
I suspect all you can expect is the avoidance of a situation where heavy braking would alter the scooters natural attitude on a surface that provides reasonable expectations of grip.
Rolling tires in loose gravel is still a fucked up scenario.
Grn14
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mebgardner
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RE: ABS
10/17/12 5:40 PM
I for one would really like to know the details of the 2013 model ABS.
Linked, or not.
Firmware / Algorithms lifted from Connie 14, or not.
User Interface capability to turn it off, or not.
Details like that will make a big difference.
Grn14
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privateer
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bean07
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RE: ABS
10/18/12 1:22 AM
It,s just like Privateer said The ABS is always on my ZX14R you can not disable it! for that matter why would you want to anyway ? maybe since my stack im not so brave heay
* Last updated by: bean07 on 10/18/2012 @ 1:29 AM *
privateer
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RE: ABS
10/18/12 9:10 AM
@hagrid - after 45 some odd years of riding, you'd think I would have mastered gravel roads.
Nope. I still suck on gravel roads. Also, I suck at stopping on gravel roads. At least the ABS helps me a little.
These days, I just roll and let the speed come down, then a little rear brake as necessary (which works great in gravel) and then to actually stop the very slow roll, I use the front brake. So she skids a couple inches. No problem, just make sure she is upright and pointed straight ahead.
So I suck on gravel roads, but I've got a method that works good enough.
Maddevill
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mebgardner
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RE: ABS
10/18/12 1:44 PM
@Bean07:
Personally, I would not want to turn it off. But, many race tracks are now considering rules that require some or all electronic "assistance" be hobbled, or turned off.
Surely, Kaw corp. knows about these proposed rules and their potential customer concerns...
mebgardner
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RE: ABS
10/18/12 1:57 PM
@Privateer:
I live at the end of a dirt and gravel road. I get plently of practice, every day. I still suck at stopping on them too. That's one reason why the capability is so attractive to me.
I get to practice with my other cycles that do have the ABS. It helps to have the setup to practice, but the fear of falling and injury keeps me from really pressing it... Yup, it's my fear, I own it, and it's up to me to get over it, I know.
Thanks for the report on how well behaved the Connie is under ABS control. That's really good news, compared to some other manufacturer's implementations I've read about.
@Bean07:
Do you have any experiences you would be willing to relate regarding the ZX handling on your cycle, under ABS conditions? That is, it came on for ya, and then what happened?
bean07
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RE: ABS
10/19/12 3:48 PM
@Bean07:No not yet my off!was on my 2010ZX1400 that was hitting the brakes hard at 40 kmph & causing my femur to shatter & my patella,but I can say Honda,s dual link braking got me outta the shit hitting a L/H 35 Km bend way to hot 2-up (about 120kmph) and with that technoligy the bike squatted and we made it around then,all I can say in a split second in the real world (street riding)any assistance is great in dire moments & im glad I have the ABS now for anything that comes my way in the future
Do you have any experiences you would be willing to relate regarding the ZX handling on your cycle, under ABS conditions? That is, it came on for ya, and then what happened?
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