Trying to remove trapped air in the clutch M/C. Basic bleed method and Mityvac not working.
I'd like to try removing the lever and pushing in the piston rod assembly with a dowel or something that won't scratch anything. Maybe pushing it in "manually" will allow the piston to go in a bit further and remove the air I believe is trapped in there.
I've never had a 14's M/C apart.
If I push the rod in and it DOES go FURTHER than the lever would push it, can I damage anything? Is it safe to push it in until I feel an obvious resistance? Appreciate any advice or experience you have.

Yes, remove the little guy. Buy a C-clamp or take the vice off the table. Clean the piston as much as possible so as not to fall out. If it's clean, you could stop it with the adjustable C-clampit? See it?

Then, take the clamp and start to push the CLEAN piston back in the piston housing. The C-clamp stays put. You begin to bleed as per same old hand pumping I use...

Use see me use a titty pump? A magic sucker? MighTie bring that bitchup too? Piss pads are US!

X = Bubble!

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/9/2011 @ 3:11 PM *

Thanks for the reply Hub but I don't follow you.
I just want to push the piston assembly inward as much as I can. But I don't want to push it in and damage something because I pushed it in further than the lever would. So if someone knows what parts make up the assembly and if this is safe to do I'd appreciate it.
This is where I'm at and why I'm asking the above: I've bled with the Mityvac and by the basic hand bleed method and get no air. I had no lever play or issue until I screwed up and let the reservoir go too low. As soon as I did that the lever play increased to about 3/4- 1". Bleed until I can't bleed no more. No air comes out. I came up with a way to make the lever compress a little further and two good sized bubbles pop out but can't get any more. As soon as those two bubbles came out the lever slack decreased to about 1/2" so I know there's trapped air in there and maybe if I can get the piston to go a little further up the bore then I can shoot out any remaining air. Taking the M/C apart is a last resort. If nothing works I may even buy a better bleed tool if I know it'll work. Just don't want to take it to a shop.
And I saw your bleeding video and did it like you did but no joy. Air is trapped and it must be in a hell of a spot.

* Last updated by: KAK on 6/9/2011 @ 6:17 PM *

Oh no; you push that piston home, you hurt nothing. It's like pushing the brake pistons home, same push rod distance, same kind of dimensions you need not worry about that thing bottoming out and locking or something. You are just going to push and have less air in that piston being out so far. You'll push fluid in a smaller area.

Once you throw that piston in, the level will rise at the res. Watch that spill over. The deal is to push less liquid in the system and when you have a lever, you watch the drop in fluid once you have the lever back again. Then, you compensate filling the res back up.

Thanks for the help.
Tried removing the lever and pushing the M/C piston inward. No go. Much harder than I thought it would be. I never got beyond maybe 1/8" and had a bad feeling about trying again.
I'll work on it again but I'm taking a couple weeks off starting Tuesday to take my son camping. Gonna enjoy Colorado and New Mexico. So I'll see you when I get back and will relay what I did to fix it(I hope).