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Created on: 06/27/10 05:48 AM

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rebus20


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Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 5:48 AM

I never see many around my area and no insult to the forum but this is one of the most inactive motorcycle forums I have been on( and I have been on most). Even the other 14 forums are slow. I know what it is, every one must be out riding instead of sitting on the internet right?

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 9:52 AM

I've been banned on most of those sites you mention. I could change my name and go on another way but I don't. I watch the tech just have so many look sees and then zero replies. And they are so obvious to solve. Yes, I saw one I could have answered at another website. Sat and watched as I wrote the same lame how to solder an end is find that wire end and low and behold, the guy went back to stock and the code cleared.

I'm bore! 14 is the best bike since sliced bread. Slice the fear from the fearless? I have no clue, but there are 14's being sold and would that previous owner own up they are scared shit of that bike was too much bike? Others complain a bummer M double you is single finger up yours is that a slow bike come 3 years WAS the world's fast test.

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 10:36 AM

We are riders not writers. If you want to have time to write buy a M109. You can write while its being refilled with oil.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 10:50 AM

We are riders not writers. If you want to have time to write buy a M109. You can write while its being refilled with oil.

Couldn't have said it better myself..



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 11:11 AM

Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 5:48 AM


I never see many around my area

That is one of the cool things about riding a 14---you don't see alot of others riding them. Especially not if you like to do some long hauls. Your the only sportbike 50 miles out in the midle of nowhere if you're on a 14. I have seen at least 3 14's on the road this year while I have seen maybe 1 or 2 14's/year in 08 and 09. These bikes have only been around 4 years. Busas have attracted a much larger ownership and they have been in production for ~10 years yet I do not see lots and lots of them out there either.

When it comes to all around sport riding, i think a smaller sportbike is known to be the best machine to be on --despite the fact that there are barely a handful of riders who have enough skill to justify owning one of those for street sport riding ---I know I am a lot faster and corner a lot harder on my big fat 14 than most guys i come across riding literbikes.

Now we have the S1000RR with the highest hp which formerly was the provincve of the hyperbikes. Obviously there is some stiff competition for our 14 in terms of attracting owners to buy new units.

this is one of the most inactive motorcycle forums I have been on( and I have been on most). Even the other 14 forums are slow.

I can't disagree with you on that. We have our surges in postcount now and again but it does get a bit sleepy at times. The Buzz about the 14 was all done 2 years ago. People just aren't all that excited about it anymore even though it remains the best choice for some important sport riding applications. The G2 busa dethroned the ZX-14 in peak hp and now both have been bested by the S1000RR. The ZX-14 heyday is all done until the bike gets some updates. It simply has to be a HP king or there is not much reason to have it in the lineup. People buy these bikes for speed and power and as long as it is percieved as less than "the most", sales will suffer.

I know what it is, every one must be out riding instead of sitting on the internet right?

Hate to say it but thie last couple weeks seems to be one of those times when posting has been on the upswing.

No motorcycles have been selling well for about a couple years. The 14 probably has some pretty low sales being in a smaller niche to begin with.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 11:45 AM

Don't know where you heard that M109 leaks oil, but I own one have a friend that owns one and i am on M109riders.com with thousands of 9 owners, and the only oil problem that has ever been talked about is the bike being over filled by the dealer when new and puking out of the left airfilter cover. The M109 is a great bike so lets stop the bashing and leave that for the Harleys.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 11:46 AM

I guess alot of people go for the Busa because of the price, and because the Busa has been around way longer, so maybe they feel more safe going with the Suzuki.


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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 12:19 PM

i bought the zx 14 because I was interested in a fast sport touring bike. I had ridden a busa but never the 14. Everything i read said the ZX14 would make a more comfortable bike for my mission. I looked at a few BMW's and the price was ridiculous. I considered seriously the VFR800 but decided the extra hp was worth the extra $1000. Price was a driving factor buying a leftover 08 model. Ebay showed several zx14 brand new for $8,600.

I have no illusions about being able to use any modern sport bike to its limits and the minuscule differences in them was of little concern to me. I liked the looks and the fact it was a little bit different then what everybody else had.

I don't believe the bike is a great seller but for me at least this lead to a very fair purchase price and a bike that is frankly better then me. This bike is certainly a niche machine. The dealers all lead me to the C14. I was told you don't want that drag bike ( zx14).

perhaps my age of 47 and the fact I showed up on my old Harley drove them to that. I only have 1,000 miles so far but I love the bike. I don't really care for the seat and am considering a change there but the power is positively incredible.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 2:22 PM

boulevardvette said "Don't know where you heard that M109 leaks oil, but I own one have a friend that owns one and i am on M109riders.com with thousands of 9 owners, and the only oil problem that has ever been talked about is the bike being over filled by the dealer when new and puking out of the left airfilter cover."
Sorry I was misled by the 150 oil leak threads on the m109 forum. http://www.m109riders.com/forums/search.php? searchid=2063419 Gee, that's alot of overfilling and bad air filters.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 3:29 PM

The zx14 is a hidden jewel amongst motorcycles,(and not just sportbikes) It really is a bike that can do it all,( jack of all trades, master of none) which is why maybe it gets overlooked? but I like the fact that you dont see one on every street corner. It is by far the best all around motorcycle Ive ever owned.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 5:26 PM

The zx14 is a hidden jewel amongst motorcycles,(and not just sportbikes) It really is a bike that can do it all,( jack of all trades, master of none) which is why maybe it gets overlooked? but I like the fact that you dont see one on every street corner. It is by far the best all around motorcycle Ive ever owned

Yeah I agree, R1's and gixxer thou's are like assholes, every one has one.

I think the bike handles really well and most people are surprised when I can keep up with them through a set of twisties, cause they figure the bike just doesnt handle twisties so well....

easy to ride in traffic, easy to ride on the open road, great in the twisties and more grunt than ziffles pig farm at chow time.

fan bloody tastic

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/27/10 6:27 PM

Wow alaska, your link doesn't work and the only oil leak posts I could find were the ones leaking out over the right air filter cover because of over filling. The 109 is a torque monster and is a blast to drive, its best cruiser I have ridden and I have ridden a few.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/28/10 5:53 AM

I bought the 14 over the busa just because you don't see them very often.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/28/10 6:57 AM

They've been sellin 14"s big time ever since they came out.Not EVERYONE can go for the baddest sportbike on the planet.But they're sellin LOTS of em.New and used.I've seen three here...they were from another state.I aint givin mine up either.EVERYONE that sees her wants to check er out.But that's not why I went with her.I trust Kawasaki bikes.My 14 does everything I could want.Fast,strong,torque.Ride quality is top notch.I think buying one is more about "perception" than other things.Most guys won't touch one cause it's a "crotch rocket"...or "plastic covered"...or Japanese.If they only knew.All I know is when I'm out riding,I get nothin but respect and questions about my "crotch rocket" from Harley owners and others.EVERYONE digs this bike when they see it up close and personal.This bike fits me perfect....I don't WANT any other ride.


I don't know about anyone else here."Inactive Forums"...IDK.I think it's quite active.Just has it's ups and downs.People come in...stay a bit,then move on.Live their lives.I would post more about my 14 experiences...BUT.....probably people would think I was bragging or something like that.I'll tell ya...I break the law EVERYTIME I ride.I'm not proud of that or intentionally set out to do it.But how can I enjoy riding my 14 without wratcheting up the pace at times?I mean,ya,I COULD cruise at 70 all day long.But in reality,there's plenty of open roads here that allow much higher velocities.If I get stopped...I pay my tickets.I've mentioned my high speed runs.Ya,probably stupid and "dangerous".I'm VERY careful about how I ride and where I ride.I have respect for other drivers.I don't think I pull any bonehead stuff around other drivers.I'm very aware of what's going on around me when I'm riding,and I try to present a "responsible" image to other drivers when I'm out.I know the perception about bikes....sportbikes in particular.Lots of people DON'T WANT THEM AROUND.And I can see why....wheelies in traffic.High speeds through towns.Loud race pipes.Ya...I get it.But I do love my bike....she's the best.Hard to keep er at the speed limit...that's true...but I try MOST of the time.

This used to be a no daytime speed limit state.I know "used to be" doesn't count now...but that does say something about the way people drive here and the road's designs.This is a great place to own a 14!


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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/28/10 7:52 AM

The 14 is an awesome bike, better than the Busa IMHO but some may argue that. Any way you look at it you would be splitting hairs as the performance of these two machines is too close to call. The 14 has the power to run and handle with anything on the plant and that includes the latest literbikes, I know cause I have two of 'em. Unless it gets super tight and twisty, the handling is on a par with the smaller bikes. I would like to see Mother Kawasaki put this bike on the same kind of diet and mass centralization program they did with the '09 ZX-6R. Nothing radical, just refine, lighten and pull everything in towards the center of gravity. This engine has enough potential to best the Busa and possibly the new BMW with a light massage. It will probably never sell in the numbers that the Hayabusa did but that's OK, I see a Busa on every corner but rarely a 14. I like owning what everyone else doesn't have. BTW , no deals anymore on the 14's in my neck of the woods. Plenty of new ZX-6Rs and ZX-10s around with heavy discounts but 14s are selling for around 12 grand out the door, no giveaways.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 12:59 AM

The busa has a lot better resale, but then again, that isn't saying much right now. All sales are down, not just the 14's. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my bike. It is forgiving, STONE reliable, and does everything well. I've done 500 mile days, but that's not my cup of tea. I like going FAST, and I'm putting a turbo on it. If they were the same price, I'd probably get the busa next time because it's cheaper and easier to work on when you start tearing into the engine. That being said, I got my bike for such a crazy good deal, I saved tons of dough by getting the 14. No regrets here!

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 1:25 AM

I love my ride. Got off the Harley and to tell you the truth, the 14 pulls a trailer better than the Harley and the suspension is much tighter also. As far as sales, I put a post of a 2009 Green on the for sale section of this forum. I wish It had been that price when I bought my 2006 last September.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 7:56 AM

this is one of the most inactive motorcycle forums I have been on

Should have been here for the Jeffo debate



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 9:04 AM

The zx14 is a hidden jewel amongst motorcycles,(and not just sportbikes) It really is a bike that can do it all,( jack of all trades, master of none) which is why maybe it gets overlooked?

This is so true IMOP its still the best overall street bike money can buy.

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 11:28 AM

Should have been here for the Jeffo debate

That was a lot of fun.....for some of us!


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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 11:31 AM

This is so true IMOP its still the best overall street bike money can buy.


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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
06/30/10 1:28 PM

I think a 600 cc sportbike would be all anyone needs for street riding in town. The 14 offers a little more room to stretch and lots of power without needing to rev high. The seat has plenty of room for a passenger. For sport riding it is great at high speed but it will corner pretty good too. Obviously, the 14 has a great resume for drag racing. My own desires in riding have shifted a bit over the past couple years but i still feel like the 14 is best choice I could have made.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
07/01/10 12:48 AM

I think part of the inactivity for the forums is that there is not much to say about the bike and the economy has dampened everyone's fun mode. Not much to say about the bike because it doesn't have any problems to speak of. I've got 24K miles on mine and it just runs great all the time. Then again I'm not trying to make me or my bike something that were not. I'm not going to track race or drag it so it just gets ridden not modded. Everyone that has one knows it has awesome power throughout the rev range don't need to say that every day to each other.

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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
07/01/10 9:11 AM

the economy has dampened everyone's fun mode.

yeah, feeling some impact around here. Thanks to all who post often. It helps keep spirits up.



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RE: Does the 14 not sell well?
07/01/10 10:07 AM

Call me ignorant,but my desire to go out and ride hasn't dampened because of the economy.A tank o' gas is what,I think around $13,$14 dollars...something like that.The ONLY thing that dampens my riding fun is having a worn rear tire that's just about at the cords...and it's my DAY OFF!I TRY to order BEFORE that happens.I'm usually pretty good about pre-ordering.But sometimes,I get it wrong!To me,nothing worse than blasting along in some canyon runs,only to park for a cigar break and find.....GEEZ!....CORDS! (of course...I'm MILES and MILES away from home...you know...one skid in the right place,one sharp rock..HHHmmmmmmm.)I don't think my on-board tire repair kit's gonna fix a hole like that!


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