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Created on: 03/06/11 08:44 PM

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Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/06/11 8:44 PM

I was transferring all the brackets and wellnuts, grommets etc. from my busted up right hand fairings onto the new fairings this afternoon and there were a couple that fit into the molded plastic extensions that I couldn't get my finger back there to push 'em through.Tried soapy water and no luck, they're just too tight. There's also one pressed into a hole in the frame for the front screw of the George Foreman that needs to be replaced, I can't get the new one pressed into the hole, you have to come in from behind on that one and no room for your fingers. There has to be a trick.....anyone? I'm aggravated!!!


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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 12:34 AM

Goop brand glue. This has saved me so many times. The beauty of the stuff is it removes off any part of the bike don't worry. Take a screwdriver long enough to stab a little dab will do ya. Let it dry for 24 hours. The longer it sets up, the better it won't spin with the screw.

We are talking, stopper/sealer/mounting/holding/bonding ideas that need addressing, you try http://www.eclecticproducts.com/rv.htm

Don't let the packaging fool you. It's the same glue for all uses. It's just more exposing to the public how it's universally used is that trick packaging. So, you see a tube, just grab anyone.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 12:43 AM

So, you now take and glue the part on the screwdriver/pointer/guide tool or whatever you can't get to. Glue till it sets up on the tool. Want that rubber well-nut not to spin or ever come out without some force or waste it and tear it out with the glue?

You need very little so you can pull it off if need be. Warning! I'm just saying, you better play with this stuff to know what you're getting into.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 1:02 AM

Are you talking the rubber grommet with the threads inside? When you tighten that grommet, the rubber sort of sits from a straight tube to setting in memory, a snake with a big swallowed body of the next door's fluffy dog inside the middle of the snake's body, sort of we talking those grommets?

Then, you may have to take a thick gauge welding rod to be smaller than the thread diameter and push through the dog. More like push the memory out of it. Then you take a long needle nose, grab the outer flapper that lands on the plastic and pull it out. Something like that.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 1:20 AM

"gotta come in from behind"....where is this well nut hole?If the Japanese put it in there...it's gotta come out.You say "it won't fit in the hole".It's GOT to go in there...most likely as the other ones...from the front side.Just spit on that sucker and work it in there.It'll go.I'm guessing you have already removed the first one...yes?So where did it go?out the back,or from the front...and is it the same size as the new one?It may be real tight,but if it is the right size...it has to fit.No doubt about it.As Hub said,,,the only thing stopping it from going in is if you were using a USED one that already had been tightened down and had the center barrel expanded.No...that will not go through.You need a new unused one.I've used a SMALL,flattip screwdriver to work the tubular portion of the grommet/well nut tip into the hole.Once I get it beginning to push in,I carefully turn the wellnut and push. Go slow if she's hanging up sliding in.They'll go in.Gotta keep em slippery though.You know..if it's giving you that much trouble sliding in initially,you can always take a new razor blade and customize the tip of the nut body by slicing off some of the rubber at the end.That part doesn't do anything in making it work.By slicing,I mean...making the rubber tip smaller in OD than the hole itself.Then you can get it pushed in to go all the way.Once tightened,that tip part won't be doing anything.


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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 2:35 AM

Blue07, I had to do a whole bunch of these yesterday, I think there we're about 11 on just middle and lower cowls alone and the rubber seemed very hard and noncompressible. I think you may have nailed it, I'll get fresh wellnuts and try them last two again. Also it would help to have a very slick lube that would evaporate.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 2:38 AM

Do you reckon local stealer stocks these? It took 15 days to get my parts online.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 4:20 AM

Local dealer may have, I have gotten some from mine.

By the way, wherever you get them, get twice as many as you need and put the extra in your parts box. You WILL need them if you don't have spares.

If local dealer doesn't have, ask how long to get. Lots of things are just 2-3 days from the time I ask them to get it. And they don't charge shipping, and give me a 10% discount because I purchased the bike from them.

I think that discount thing is getting old, but I'll get it until they say no more. Heh.

Amazon might have, you just have to be careful you get the right size. I'm not sure they have, but they have all kinds of stuff, and can get it to you in 1 or 2 days if it is something they stock and ship.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 9:43 AM

The lube is spit... Insert portion into mouth and push a good wad of stringy yurkey out the mouth and install grommet.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 10:12 AM

Once a wellnut is used, it mushrooms, so you almost always got come at it from the backside. A new wellnut will slide right in from the front.


The lube is spit... Insert portion into mouth and push a good wad of stringy yurkey out the mouth and install grommet.

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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 12:51 PM

Once a wellnut is used, it mushrooms, so you almost always got come at it from the backside. A new wellnut will slide right in from the front.

Part number 92015-1757, $8.00 each, I know I just picked some up during lunch. Dogo is correct, these new ones are smooth with no bulb and soft, takes 3 seconds to install one. The ones that were in my cowlings were heavily mushroomed on the back side and were hard as rocks, tought to get out and almost impossible to press back in. I tore two in half trying. Why didn't I order a sack of these things, would have saved me hours of aggravation and possibly the entire left side of my bike?



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/07/11 1:15 PM

Why didn't I order a sack of these things, would have saved me hours of aggravation and possibly the entire left side of my bike?

You never know the chain of events that gets set in motion. Might be important down the road (of life).



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/08/11 7:32 PM

A friend that owns a car audio business just told me he can get all the wellnuts I need for 60 cents each. Worth looking into.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/08/11 8:08 PM

If your pushing them back in put the bolt in it a couple of threads and push!!!!If your taking them out push them thru.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 6:50 AM

A friend that owns a car audio business just told me he can get all the wellnuts I need for 60 cents each. Worth looking into.

If you can get them that cheap I will go in on some with you. I hate these damn little f'ers. Good from the view point of never stripping out your plastics, but why do they need them in the metal? And why so expensive!!!



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 6:52 AM

BTW amazon has them. looks like they are about $1 a piece.



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 6:56 AM

best price for 6mm
6mm wellnut

What size are most the fairing bolts? 5 or 6 I'm tinkin



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 7:00 AM

5mm, best price is CalSCi at $4 for a six pack, 66 cents each.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/WellNutsprod.html


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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 7:06 AM

If your pushing them back in put the bolt in it a couple of threads and push!!!!If your taking them out push them thru.
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Blue07, I had to do a whole bunch of these yesterday, I think there we're about 11 on just middle and lower cowls alone and the rubber seemed very hard and noncompressible. I think you may have nailed it, I'll get fresh wellnuts and try them last two again


Sounds easy til you try it. I'm not going to call Monday morning quarterback on ya here but please go back and reread my posts, taking them out was no problem using the original screw, pushing them back in from the front with the screw was what tore two of them in half and they were lubricated with soap. You're pushing on the center with the screw and the bulbed part is too hard and incompresible to fit back through the hole, they are too old and age hardened to be pushed in from the front without ripping the brass nut out of the center. My bike is an '06, almost five years old now, the correct procedure would be to replace the inserts with fresh ones which is what intend to do.

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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 7:23 AM

Ninja, here is a visual aid. Notice after install the large bulb that forms on the blind side of the fastener. Now leave it there cooking in engine heat for 5 years and it takes what is called a permanent set. The rubber is old and age hardened i.e. no longer elastic. It will not fit back through the hole without extreme force which rips the rubber. Hope this explains things.


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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 9:51 AM

SALVAGE: What I was saying is to look at the well-nut without a screw in it. You push the welding rod into the [side] of the rubber grommet so you now push the puppy through with the flapper over the surface to be folded into the needle nose pliers.

You still have a ginder-full of spitage on the needle nose tip, because you are going to lift the flapper, and literally, lick around the bottom of the well-nut. This way, you have the one flapper side up, folded in the center, with the welding rod pushing the wet flapper out that way.

How else would you remove the well-nut if you can't pull it out as you can no longer lift it out as if never set to memory in snake-puppy mode.

Well, nuts, I hope too, I splain myself on the exit of well, a nut!



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 11:35 AM

Damm Hub, you just lost me big time! I can get these things from a number of sources pretty cheap so I'll be replacing them all in the future.

Here's another source, 5 pack for $3.98, kinda like buyingsocks at Walmart.


http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?



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RE: Wellnut rant..$&!?@)@&
03/09/11 12:17 PM

I figured they were dealer only. Thanks you made my day! :)



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