I'm only able to read my dash gear indicator when
riding in certain angles to the sun, it is definitely
not readable way too often.
This one is supposedly plug n play, has two connectors,
I did a search with no results specific to this bike,
has anyone hooked one up that has similar connectors,
I thing its supposed to interface with the ECU,
but I took mine out a few days ago, and don't recall
any other ports beside the two 2'' main ports.

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Motorcycle Gear Indicator Digital Gear Meter LED 1-6 Level Display with Ring for Kawasaki ZX-14 / ZZR1400 2006-2015 (Green)

I'm only able to read my dash gear indicator when
riding in certain angles to the sun, it is definitely
not readable way too often

That has always been a complaint of the ZX-14, probably a lot of other bikes too.

This one is supposedly plug n play, has two connectors,
I did a search with no results specific to this bike,
has anyone hooked one up that has similar connectors,
I thing its supposed to interface with the ECU

If it's the Healtech GIPro, that's always been the choice. Last time I looked at them was about 8 years ago and there was at least two, maybe three levels of the product from gear indictor only to gear indicator plus smart TRE and maybe some other electronic gizmo. If you're getting a flash, you might not be able to run a Timing Retard Eliminator without special editing of the flashed timing maps. The tuner might already advance timing through the flash.

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If it's the Healtech GIPro, that's always been the choice. Last time I looked at them was about 8 years ago and there was at least two, maybe three levels of the product from gear indictor only to gear indicator plus smart TRE and maybe some other electronic gizmo. If you're getting a flash, you might not be able to run a Timing Retard Eliminator without special editing of the flashed timing maps. The tuner might already advance timing through the flash.

I see the zx6r now has what looks to be a very readable screen,
with Gear indicator, I wish that were available as an upgrade.

I see the zx6r now has what looks to be a very readable screen,
with Gear indicator,

It's probably one of the colored LCDs? They do look clearer because of the full color display. There could be some that are better but being out in the light on a bike, my feeling is any lighted display is going to be hard to read under direct light. You can't beat analog gauges for clarity and fast mental processing. I wouldn't mind having an array of analog gauges. The Hayabusa has four with two smaller, one nicely stacked behind the tac and the other behind the speedo. I wouldn't mind it having more analog gauges rather than the LCD and that is colored on the Gen3 Hayabusa. The Gen2 busa's LCD just shows gear position, odo and trip meter or clock. I don't remember it being as difficult to see, maybe because it has a dash shading it from above. I think a hood above the ZX-14 LCD would help a lot to make it visible in more lighting situations.

Another gripe about electronic displays on motorcycles is that some of the gauges are too small to read well. The early GIPros had a larger display that would have made them more readable. Looking at the case dimensions of the current models, they should be just about the size of the OEM gear position display but visually, a lot crisper. It even appeared a current GIPro would fit under the clear plastic cover of the LCD meter unit. You could conceivably glue it with some silicone over the stock gear position display. You would have to drill a couple holes for the wire coming in and the one going out. The wires would be visible next to the GIPro display but if bent sharply and precisely, it would look fine. You'd want to seal the wire holes with silicone and probably be careful about moisture and condensation and also have a fully intact clear plastic cover too replace the drilled one incase you needed to revert to stock. You see all the plans I had for my Gen1, Strat? I had custom electronics hashed out and even started on the project and then the bike got wrecked.

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Here is how I understand a code. Plug it in and see if the OEM gear window shows a locked 6.

Say both the aftermarket matches the dash numbers with each shift. Then no code is present.

Now say you see a locked 6, but the aftermarket shows all gears. Then it coded and you now know how a TRE works and feels seat of the pants wise.

Hi, Ivan!

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It's probably one of the colored LCDs? They do look clearer because of the full color display. There could be some that are better but being out in the light on a bike, my feeling is any lighted display is going to be hard to read under direct light.

I just looked it up, looks like it's a TFT (Thin film resistor vs LCD= Liquid Crystal display)
multiple articles tout much better visibility in daylight,
and colors are more stable when viewing from sides.

I wouldn't mind having an array of analog gauges. The Hayabusa has four with two smaller, one nicely stacked behind the tac and the other behind the speedo. I wouldn't mind it having more analog gauges rather than the

I've always been partial to analogue gauges, but part of my issue with
any cluster is that I need them in my face, not down on top of the fuel tank lol.
I think last time I looked at the busa cluster, I liked them much
better than Kawasaki's clusters.
Either way the ultimate for me would be HID in helmet, they already make
such an animal, I think maybe just for speed, but I'd only found
one brand and that isn't confidence building for that tech.
Eventually, all telemetry will be available via Helmut HID, maybe
a few more years, but not long.

I think a hood above the ZX-14 LCD would help a lot to make it visible in more lighting situations.

Yeah, maybe a hood, I thought about rigging something for a test,
but didn't get around to it cause early morning testing perpendicular to
sun wiped out vision, I've found this to be the case , so I
figured, skip it, blocking wouldn't help me there.
An odd feature though is that with sunlight right behind
me the screen is very readable. lol

You see all the plans I had for my Gen1, Strat?

I haven't yet run into the plans you had laid out for the Gen1.
Do you remember the title of the thread?

I just looked it up, looks like it's a TFT (Thin film resistor vs LCD= Liquid Crystal display)
multiple articles tout much better visibility in daylight,
and colors are more stable when viewing from sides.

Cool. I think I' m going to find out with the new busa.

Eventually, all telemetry will be available via Helmut HID, maybe
a few more years, but not long.

Sounds cool. For me, that would be more everyday riding (which is important) but if I'm really pushing the bike, I don't look much at the gauges anyway. ...maybe a quick glance but not for any precise number, just an idea.

An odd feature though is that with sunlight right behind
me the screen is very readable. lol

It must be that you are blocking the light that would hit the LCD.

I haven't yet run into the plans you had laid out for the Gen1.
Do you remember the title of the thread?

There wasn't one thread but you might come across some isolated comments. I probably have pics of my switch panel on here and I know I have pics of my gauges mockup. I myself would have to search.

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And search I did.

Here's a couple. I got as far as installing an oil pressure and temp gauge to my master cylinder clamps. They were planned to go in the dash at some point along with two to three others. The switch plate was cut and edges beveled and it fit, I was about to start figuring out the aesthetic touches like texture to match the soft granular appearance of other dash parts and I found a paint that matched the OEM plastic perfectly. I was working on figuring out the wiring. It would have helped to have a better understanding of electronic components like dip switches and such but what I had planned seemed like it work, just more elaborate than necessary. I had the LEDtree on the bike with the wires, just nothing to complete the circuit with yet. I'll finish this off someday. I need a Gen1 ZX-14 first. The Gen2 has a lot bigger ignition cylinder that would be in the way of the plate but one thing I planned to do was eliminate the ignition cylinder and go with a toggle switch and a push button. The pods with starter button were planned to be eliminated too for narrower handlebars. These were all plans hashed out to some degree or another but the switch plate and dash were starting to come together. This was over a hard 9 years in my life and a lot of time spent on bikes and mods were the therapy.

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=8C037370-A752-28F1-C29B9AFF5F90F2F2&page=1&searchTerm=coffin%20lid&show=0

https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=3F44696E-B546-472A-24C9BE1E8543E196&page=1&searchTerm=coffin%20lid#1

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Here's a couple. I got as far as installing an oil pressure and temp gauge to my master cylinder clamps. They were planned to go in the dash at some point along with two to three others. The switch plate was cut and edges beveled and it fit, I was about to start figuring out the aesthetic touches like texture to match the soft granular appearance of other dash parts and I found a paint that matched the OEM plastic perfectly.

Cool projects.
My 'wish' projects;
- Hidden Kil switch.
It would be cool if the bike would turn over and spit,
just not actually start, or start and immediately quit, as if
something was wrong with the bike, I think that would be
cool and I'm pretty sure that would be super easy for someone
that understands the ECU or the right intermittent flasher
circuit to use and where to inteface it with coil or something
along those lines.
- Mod to change the bright headlight momentary switch to a
momentary OFF switch for the MAIN headlights, flashing brights imv
has but one primary purpose, and that is to
piss people off lol,
or secondarily, to alert someone that might not see us,
and then a thirdindary purpose (new word) to flash
someone that is blinding us with their brights :smi .
We ALREADY have a bright 'switch' so that covers any
scenario that I need the 'latched-on' state of the brights
for , it is right there very accessible.
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If I could turn my main lights off rapidly , like twice
that is a signal to other bikers and sportbikers, 'hey bro'
also key to having that feature is to alert oncoming cars
that forgot to turn on their old-school headlights,
or someone with burnt out lights.
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I accidentally discovered that my starter switch on the
Goldwing kills the headlights when pushed in,
it was very cool once I stumbled on that, I used it
quite a bit. Another GW owner told me that this
'accidental' feature had been used for years by
other GW owners, I think he pulled that sht out of
his @@@ though, cause I've read thousands of GW and
other bike posts, additionally and not once had
anyone ever even mentioned that it was a 'thing' .

Shame that you lest your GEN1, is the frame twisted, bent
smashed?
Could you have it 'trued' up, buy an abandoned
or not running Gen1, and transfer the key parts
that still work, engine etc?

- Hidden Kil switch.
It would be cool if the bike would turn over and spit,
just not actually start, or start and immediately quit, as if
something was wrong with the bike, I think that would be
cool and I'm pretty sure that would be super easy for someone
that understands the ECU or the right intermittent flasher
circuit to use and where to inteface it with coil or something
along those lines.

As an antitheft device? Maybe but the original purpose of the kill switch is to save the engine if the tip over sensor doesn't do it. You could have the OEM kill switch plus some kind of hidden one that almost lets the bike run. I had planned a lanyard kill switch in the absence of my control pods. You separate from the bike, the lanyard pulls the pin on the kill switch and the engine will definitely shut down even if the tip over sensor doesn't react immediately (which they sometimes don't). My Hayabusa ran for a second after it fell off the side stand.

- Mod to change the bright headlight momentary switch to a
momentary OFF switch for the MAIN headlights, flashing brights imv
has but one primary purpose, and that is to
piss people off lol,
or secondarily, to alert someone that might not see us,
and then a thirdindary purpose (new word) to flash
someone that is blinding us with their brights :smi .
We ALREADY have a bright 'switch' so that covers any
scenario that I need the 'latched-on' state of the brights
for , it is right there very accessible.

The Hayabusa passing light cuts the circuit whether you have high beam on or low. I thought that was what my 14R did too but haven't used the passing light enough to notice.

As a side note, I don't flash my brights at oncoming traffic as a warning signal, I hit the hazard lights. An oncoming driver may look down at their dash to see if they have their brights on if they see you flash. This could take their attention off of what you were warning them about up the road.

Shame that you lest your GEN1, is the frame twisted, bent
smashed?
Could you have it 'trued' up, buy an abandoned
or not running Gen1, and transfer the key parts
that still work, engine etc?

I think the frame is ok except the tail subframe. That is cracked where it bolts to the side rails of the frame. I'm sure it's bent too. That would be easy to replace. Hub suggested tearing the entire bike down and checking for any signs of cracks or stress to the frame. I've decided I'd rather keep it as a parts bike and just get another one in good shape. The 08 flipped top over bottom at least three times, fell on the right, tank crushed in on both right and left, found laying on the right. All fairings gone except the seat cover. Crankshaft cover ground through. Coolant leak dripping below bike near the vacinity of the water pump. All electrical connectors to lights torn out. Ohlins forks seem have leaked. at least one MC severely damaged. WHo knows what else? It would be a lot easier and probably less expensive to just buy another one. Pics bottom of page here: https://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=1D2F7106-EFC9-02CE-48B8F2F6C3DB9AA0&page=3

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Here is how I understand a code. Plug it in and see if the OEM gear window shows a locked 6.
Say both the aftermarket matches the dash numbers with each shift. Then no code is present.
Now say you see a locked 6, but the aftermarket shows all gears. Then it coded and you now know how a TRE works and feels seat of the pants wise.
Hi, Ivan!

It's been a number of years since I was looking at GIpros but there was something called "advanced TRE" and I believe that was the feature that locked the gear position sensor in 6th but the GIpro still displayed the actual gear the transmission was in.

I'm very interested in flashing but I really think all those little electronic tricks we had before were cool. I'd like to rebuild my Gen1 14 with all the old stuff. Now it's just flash and go and it doesn't help you learn much about the bike. I suppose if you get the software but there's not much talk at all between self tuner owners. It's up to the professionals now but it's quick easy and cheap.

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As an antitheft device? Maybe but the original purpose of the kill switch is to save the engine if the tip over sensor doesn't do it. You could have the OEM kill switch plus some kind of hidden one that almost lets the bike run

Yes, as in hidden, I should have said so lol, but yeah
I'd want it to hicuup a bit like it might start, but won't
and hopefully a thief abandons what he figures
is a sick-ass bike . :smi

I had planned a lanyard kill switch in the absence of my control pods.

Yeah, that's a good idea, I was screwing around when I got home
this afternoon and almost whiskey throttled,
I was standing up, power went a bit more than expected,
and you know what happens when that happens, you get off
balance backwards and grab since holding on to the bars
for support, wooops,,,, more throttle. :smi
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I also have a 'proprietary' method lol, for anti
whiskey throttling, an under grip or
could be considered over grip
depending on how it's looked at, the method is
cocking the wrist back then grabbing the throttle tube,
so you can't physically twist all that much more than
where the throttle is positioned when grabbed.
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Like your Busa , if I drop my bike I need to reach the
kill switch or key, to turn it off right away,
it doesn't shut off instantly either.

As a side note, I don't flash my brights at oncoming traffic as a warning signal, I hit the hazard lights

Yes, good move, I've been messing around with left right
signal rapidly when changing lanes and,
I tap my brakes quite rapidly when alerting people
behind that traffic is coming to a halt or I'm turning
right, I'll do like - - - and maybe once more depending- - -.
I was sitting in the left turn lane a few weeks ago,
and two lanes to the right this gal out of the blue
comes screaming through the signal, she obviously
didn't know it was even there, and had I' been sitting
in that lane, I probably wouldn't be typing right now.
lol
I only hit my brights if someone is really blinding me,
or the bright me thinking my brights are one, I don't
get obnoxious with it, just a quick blip.

It would be a lot easier and probably less expensive to just buy another one

Ouch, what a heartbreak looking at those photos, and you're probably right,
cheaper to just replace the bike.
What of the rims, is the front rim toast? Those are the
$3000 set aren't they?

* Last updated by: Stratovarious on 12/19/2025 @ 5:34 PM *

Like your Busa , if I drop my bike I need to reach the
kill switch or key, to turn it off right away,
it doesn't shut off instantly either.

The tip over sensor is just a little electronic teeter totter. If the bike doesn't lean into the extreme range, the teeter totter doesn't make contact. If the bike leans far enough that it would be a definite crash, the seat makes contact and the engine shuts off. The thing is, the little teeter totter pivot might be a little sticky and it might not pivot far enough to make contact immediately or maybe not at all even if the bike is laying on its side. I removed an tested my TOS and it seemed to work as intended.

I only hit my brights if someone is really blinding me,
or the bright me thinking my brights are one, I don't
get obnoxious with it, just a quick blip.

I do the same. My truck is kind of high so even my low beams can seem like high beams. Some cars even have very bright low beams these days. I hate when someone brights me when I have my dims on. If that happens, I will probably solid bright them back. Matter of fact, if I pull back on the handle, I believe it shines both high and lows.

What of the rims, is the front rim toast? Those are the
$3000 set aren't they?

As far as i can tell, the rims are ok but I'd have to do the runout test on them and look closely for cracks. The tires are still holding air three years later. They are a very special set of Carrazzeria rims. I believe they made this set just for me. I found an ad with an excellent price on the the Tri-R after it was discontinued and I ordered. The seller (58-Cycle)communicated with me about possibly not being able to get the wheels for me. I agreed to receive them with a delay of a few months and the whels came around this time of year back in 2012. They're lighter than the current wheel for the ZX-14 made by Core Moto who purchased Carrozzeria. They'll never be made again and I probably got the last set ever made. They were about $2,000 back in 2012 and that was an excellent deal even at that time.

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I do the same. My truck is kind of high so even my low beams can seem like high beams. Some cars even have very bright low beams these days. I hate when someone brights me when I have my dims on. If that happens, I will probably solid bright them back. Matter of fact, if I pull back on the handle, I believe it shines both high and lows.

Yeah, I flash them back not as retaliation , but to
show that I didn't have them on.
And yes some of the newer vehicles, and maybe some
older with retro fits, are way too bright for my eyes.
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8 page on that crash, I saved the link and will look
through it.
How did the crash occur, or how did it happen,
did you know at the time?

How did the crash occur, or how did it happen,
did you know at the time?

Oh yes, I knew exactly what happened when it happened and after I woke up. I was doing about 70 mph. This wasn't fast for me road but I was in the habit of riding slower on straight stretches. The speed limit was actually 35 but I'd hit 90 in some corners. Well, I came up over a rise in the road and saw a deer standing on the road in front of me. The sun was behind me. Maybe it couldn't see me but it sure heard me. That Tsukigi CANNON was loud! It was about the third ride of the season and I was not in good practice. I was pretty sure I could have braked my way out of danger but that would have been full on braking which I wasn't really prepared for yet. I looked ahead and saw no traffic so I veered over to the oncoming lane to allow some space between me and the deer. I'm sure I at least cut throttle if not braked. As I approached, the deer trotted out across the road right in front of me. You see from the accident site photo I was on the brake hard. Theres a grey line on the road. That was all front brake, my rear brake was non operational at the time (rear brake MC mod planned). The last thing I remember was seeing the deer's golden brown fur in the sunlight on the LH side of the bike and hearing a loud CRACK! It was a while afterward but I had a vague recolection of waking up and seeing the bike on its side. I was afraid it might be leaking gasoline that could catch fire so I crawled away and fell asleep in the road. I was a teacher at the time and two of my students who had seen me ride past a minute earlier came to see what happened with one parent. They woke me up. They thought I was dead (which I find macabrely amusing). I felt my body over for pain or broken bones and there was no indication I was seriously injured so I got up. Paramedics came, tow truck, cops. The tow truck driver offered to buy the bike. I would have sold but was unable to find the title so we dropped it off at the storage unit and I went home to recover. It was summer so I didn't have to work which helped. I obviously had a concussion but never had any brain scans. I was in shock which passed but no apparent injuries other than so gruesome road rash to my knees, calves, thumb and all fingertips other than my pinkies which I probably raised like I was drinking tea! I had a very sore solar plexus area which was probably the deer hitting me. It passed in a few days. I treated the road rash with neosporin and gauze. A couple days later I was afraid it was infected so I went to urgent care and they debrided the knees which was fairly excruciating for several minutes. I slept with my legs on a chair next to the bed because the skin wounds leaked liquid. All healed sufficiently in a few weeks so that I could kneel to light my little propane grill but that new scar tissue tore open just from that. Now its fairly normal skin but it's still a little discolored. I don't want to ever go through that again and I don't want to loose another bike. I'm glad I lived though.

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LOL I paced it off a few times. That was half the length of a football field we slid.

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Oh yes, I knew exactly what happened when it happened and after I woke up. I was doing about 70 mph. This wasn't fast for me road but I was in the habit of riding slower on straight stretches. The speed limit was actually 35 but I'd hit 90 in some corners. Well, I came up over a rise in the road and saw a deer standing on the road in front of me. The sun was behind me

Wow, chalk this survival up to helmet perhaps,
even with helmet though, so much else could have gone wrong.

LOL I paced it off a few times. That was half the length of a football field we slid.

Levis?
Open finger gloves, sport gloves, gauntlets?
Odd, how we instinctively try to stop ourselves
with our fingertips lol.
This has me thinking about my gauntlet gloves,
those fingertips aren't exactly hard plastic,
just leather, and probably wouldn't have held
up sliding 150 feet.

I just put together my Sportsbike Shark suit,
it's the sum of a bunch of parts, its about
5 segments, I'll try to take some photos later,
I think someone could have a prosperous business
designing and selling an under garment
'shark' suit roughly along the lines
of what I've put together,
it should be a one piece or two piece, like
pants, and shirt, not too thick but decent
slide protection.
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I NEVER ride in short sleeves, not even
in 120f+ weather, always at least the
thin long sleeves, and a sweatshirt if
not too hot out, though I've even worn
them when it's pretty hot.
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I plan to get full leather suit for track,
but none of us want to walk around in Walmart
and Burger King lol, in that, we need something
to wear underneath our levis and street garb,
I use my bike for everything, even though I
have a 24 year old RX300, and 20 year old
Gold Wing, I just can't get enough of
the 14r, I use it for everything.
:smi
I also wear knee pads* ,
which are probably more likely to stay in place
worn under jeans which I do but often,
but also over the top of jeans, same with elbow pads.
I also have that CE jacket I mentioned, for
winter,
and a summer, mesh 'shirt' with decent
entry level protection.

*just pads, not the
higher level hard plastics type, but I keep
looking for hard plastic protectors that aren't
overly bulky.

Wow, chalk this survival up to helmet perhaps,
even with helmet though, so much else could have gone wrong.

I'm pretty sure I would have died of head injuries without the helmet. I was unconscious and didn't do a thing to protect myself. The helmet scraped all around so I rolled at least one complete turn. A guy I grew up with died in a deer strike crash last summer. Lack of helmet is what killed him.

Levis?
Open finger gloves, sport gloves, gauntlets?
Odd, how we instinctively try to stop ourselves
with our fingertips lol.
This has me thinking about my gauntlet gloves,
those fingertips aren't exactly hard plastic,
just leather, and probably wouldn't have held
up sliding 150 feet.

I had on an older pair of jeans and they were more on the thin side. Most of my Levis I have now are pretty tough but I don't think that would have made much difference. I had a very light pair of gloves on, they were about zero protection. They were just thin cloth, a dollar ninety-niners they call them. If it's soft, thin leather like calf skin, even that is helpful. The sleeves of my jacket were that thin leather and one ripped open but I had no skin wounds on my arms. If it's harder leather, I believe it offers excellent protection from abrasion. The skin on my fingertips regenerated very quickly and there's no sign of any scarring there. I could still play the guitar like nothing ever happened!

I think someone could have a prosperous business
designing and selling an under garment
'shark' suit roughly along the lines
of what I've put together,

I've seen a number of armored undergarments for motorcycling. I'd use such garments but in a higher speed crash, the armor will slide and rotate off of the vulnerable areas it was meant to protect. That's what I've always been told. It's much better than no protection though. Heck, even plain abrasion resistant fabric is good. The mesh and foam torso of my jacket had almost no damage to it. The best protection is tough leather with armor held within the garment. Even that can slide and causes skin injuries but a lot less severe than the road.

I NEVER ride in short sleeves, not even
in 120f+ weather, always at least the
thin long sleeves, and a sweatshirt if
not too hot out, though I've even worn
them when it's pretty hot

120° is pretty dang hot. It might get that hot here once every 20 years. Ninety is hot here and there are usually a few days over a hundred. Those were always the days I had the most confidence in my tires and the deer stayed in the woods. I knew I'd be riding my fastest on those days so I wore full leather. It wasn't so bad for a 45 minute ride. Perforated leather helps and from my research, it doesn't hinder the strength of the leather. I guess if you want to be comfortable, dress for it and don't go fast. It's all an odds game no matter how you do to protect yourself. You have to put the odds in your favor as much as possible.

I plan to get full leather suit for track,
but none of us want to walk around in Walmart
and Burger King lol, in that, we need something
to wear underneath our levis and street garb,
I use my bike for everything, even though I
have a 24 year old RX300, and 20 year old
Gold Wing, I just can't get enough of
the 14r, I use it for everything.
:smi

A leather one piece is best, kangaroo leather is even better. Whatever you wear, you strike a balance between practicality and the level of protection. There are lots of gear that provide good protection for moderately high speed crashes but aren't full on track gear. My feeling is that sort of gear is great for legal speeds up to 55-60 mph.

I also wear knee pads* ,
which are probably more likely to stay in place
worn under jeans which I do but often,
but also over the top of jeans, same with elbow pads.
I also have that CE jacket I mentioned, for
winter,
and a summer, mesh 'shirt' with decent
entry level protection.
*just pads, not the
higher level hard plastics type, but I keep
looking for hard plastic protectors that aren't
overly bulky.

Any protective gear you wear is going to be massively better than no gear. A tough pair of jeans and a light jacket with helmet are a good measure for riding under 40 mph. It depends how fast you're riding. Of course, there are freak accidents where a person is severely injured at low speed but like I said, it's an odds game.

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They were just thin cloth, a dollar ninety-niners they call them

I wore thin work type gloves for a long time and hard-knuckle short short
gloves too, no longer though.

Any protective gear you wear is going to be massively better than no gear. A tough pair of jeans and a light jacket with helmet are a good measure for riding under 40 mph

I'll have to figure out how to operate a bike at 40mph,
I think that will takes some practice.

I guess that's why we wear protective gear.

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I guess that's why we wear protective gear.

So Strat, can you see the 6 locked at the dash screen or does it show each gear with the aftermarket gear indicator installed, cough, wired up?

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So Strat, can you see the 6 locked at the dash screen or does it show each gear with the aftermarket gear indicator installed, cough, wired up?

No, it's blank, I mean, I didn't buy one yet.

I'm not going to get one until I figure out how
it's supposed to hook up, I doubt it will come
with adequate instruction, and if it's that
single button programming, I'll probably just
stick it under the tire and back over it.