Kawi is offering $1250 rebate on 2010-11 14's plus 1.95% for 60 months.
If you get the 11 for $10,300 OTD then $1250 back... $9050 at 1.95% 60 months = $158.43 month 0 down!
2012 $14,500 OTD @8% 60 months $294.01
Big difference. What do you guys think?

Well.. to make an informed decision you really need to wait for the 2012's release so you can get a proper comparison. That said, it's only money... If the 2012 is as spectacular as KHI is touting, then wouldn't you really rather have the 2012? If money is the real issue buy a left over 10, 09 or 08 if you can find one.... hell, buy used. Personally, I'd wait to see what the ZX-14r is bringing to the table.

Kaws deal expires on 9/30/11. thats the only thing...
Money is an issue as well.

Buy the 11 and mod it with the 140 a month you save over the 12's. Whatever they bring out will not be as bad as you can make your 11.

What state are you in? I searched in North Carolina and the best deal I could find on a 2011 was $11,500 otd. That was with the cash back. Also Kawasaki hasn't released the price on the 2012 as far as I know. I could be wrong though.

Ca.
I was just est the cost of the new 2012.

If I were buying new, I'd want the '12. Gonna be 5K more OTD but .......

If you are shopping price go all the way. Buy a used low miles bike. pick one up for 6 K easily. CT meg/PCV/some BST wheels-----you still have a few thousand less sunk in than you would spend on a 2012.

Kaws deal expires on 9/30/11. thats the only thing...
Money is an issue as well.

Man, tough one. You can be sure no deals on New 2012. If you buy a 2011 at least You know your getting a good bike with all the bugs worked out. New 2012 will have some issues, always do. Won't be cheap either. Good luck, let your wallet lead you.

No sentimental attachment to the bike....your interest in the bike will be strictly newness.....I think you will be yearning for the 2012. So get that.

you will be yearning for the 2012. So get that.

Rook, are we getting New bike ?

I'd wait... There'll be other deals... Oct last year I picked up a leftover '08 for $7500 ($8200otd)... If you decide the 2012 isn't worth the extra $$$, when it is actually released, a leftover '09-'11 is still gonna be worth less than it is today... and last I checked, stealerships still had lots of leftover 14's.

The new 14 is gonna have almost 80 more cc's and abs and its gonna be bad to the bone, im speculating of course ......I will have one, id wait

Some who have obscene disposable income (you can tell by all the wheels they own) may find the 2012 ZX14R attractive at $16,000 (any less and KHI will be losing money) but most of us can't do that.

Take an objective look at how you ride.

This is the only way to make a decision if you aren't in the afore mentioned class of rich people.

DogoZX hit the nail on the head, when he asked me if I was finally going to break a 4 decade plus chain of custody on flagship Kawasaki performance bike models. Yes, I am. And yet I will still drool all over the 2012 ZX14R because how I ride has changed, but I'm not dead yet.

I think my aborted sojourn into buying a big Harley was just an overreaction to my coming to the conclusion I don't care about speed and 1/4 mile potential at all anymore. I'm glad it didn't happen, it would have been a mistake.

When I buy a new bike next spring or early summer, it will more likely be a BMW than a Harley, but I will test them all, and do my research, just like I did when I canceled my order for 2008 ZX10R in favor of the ZX14. And even that was still premised on who I used to be, not who I am today.

I ride a lot more miles, and a lot more hours, to a lot of events and with moderate size groups now. And its not about getting there fastest, its about getting there in comfort and style. Hence the extreme swing in bike choice from an overweight wanna-be sportbike to an overweight touring bike.

So make your decision based on what you REALLY want from riding.

What do we know about the 2012 ZX14R. Little, but we know it is at least 1429cc more or less. So it will have around 210 rwhp if the ECU lets it have it. Consider though, its not getting into the US and parts of Europe with over 200 rwhp. So expect it to be gimped just like the new ZX10R. Maybe Guhl will do a ECU flash package for it.

But it will also weigh more than the 2011 ZX14 unless they put really expensive parts on it. I.E. the base price goes up again. Bigger pistons weigh more, unless they cost twice as much. And so on. Horsepower costs money.

Long way around the barn, but if you try to reason it out, without getting your ego involved, and you still come back to the 2012, then go for it!

16k and I'll go duc-monstering on the cheap. That is way overpriced for 4 new pistons and a boring! Buy a low level rr and beat the 14 all up for less money.

How did we get the inside skinny on what the price of the new 14 was going to be? I would think it would be comparable in price to the new ZX-10. It always was very close in price to the baby brother. If it is $16K they will have a new problem with selling the bike. That is just to high. You mod that nicely and you are looking at 20K.

Rook, are we getting New bike ?

* Last updated by: Rook on 9/26/2011 @ 9:51 AM *

MSRP for a 2011 zx14 is $13,599... 2011 zx10r w/abs is $14,799... $16k for a 2012 zx14 is probably about right. Will be a very tough pill to swallow if I decide I gotta get one ASAP... I "only" have $13k into my '08 including all of the mods.

Nope. Not as far as I can tell. I'm not really feeling the itch except to mod what I have now. A cheap track used bike would be something that I could really use though. Sat on a ZX-6 and the new ZX-10. The 6 had a full tank of gas and still felt much lighter than the empty 10 to me.

Now that's the spirit Rook!!!! In the tax bracket I belong to we don't get new bikes or new cars! Will probably get a used 1 3 years from now, unless I get an insane deal! I'm thinking about this year zx10 end of next year or the RR. I'm too big for a zx6!

* Last updated by: dragking on 9/26/2011 @ 10:13 AM *

Nah, you want a badass 2005 zx10r widowmaker, DK... I'll deliver it.

$16k for a 2012 zx14 is probably about right.

I'm thinking the new 14 will be about 500 cheaper than the new 10.

I hope your right. Stupid price tag will be major turn off.

Horsepower costs money, guys. You know this, but still hope KHI will bring Christmas early.

I don't think so. If the 2012 gets 1440cc they are either boosting the list price to pay for the upgraded connecting rods, cranks, blocks/cylinders, wrist pins, of course pistons, balance shafts, clutches, etc., or.... they are taking a 2011 block and cylinder, boring it for 1440cc, using mass production connecting rods, and stunting the ECU to keep horsepower low enough to get under US import tariffs and to keep the engines from blowing up because they didn't put stage 2 components in.

Look at it this way, KHI ain't going to lose money so either we pay more for the bike, or they cut corners and the hype is greater than the technology.

Ask Carpenter what parts he insists on installing to bore and stroke for his stage 2 motor. Do you think KHI is putting all those parts in for a price close to the 2011 price?

Seriously?

Privateer, did you sell your bike yet?

Nope, took it off the market. If someone had met my price, it would be gone and I'd be out of a bike to ride while I fight the VA in court.

I'm gonna get my disability back pay from the bastages, its just gonna take 6 months longer than it should have. LOL.

Can they justify making it 2-3k more than a Busa? It probably should be but it might really hurt sales.

Whatever new parts they use, if they are performance oriented parts they will add to the price.

Bigger pistons cost more. Maybe only $50 each more, but it adds up. A stroker crank costs more than what they are using in 2011. It starts to add up. KHI isn't going to give it away.

We just have to wait and see. I'm not expecting nearly as much for 2012 as some.