I'm seriously thinking about selling off my four sportbikes, might keep the cruiser though. Just not having any fun anymore, constantly checking my 6 O'clock for LEO makes me a danger to myself as well as others around me. My eyes should be focused on the road ahead, not what might be sneaking up behind me. I know this happens after a ticket but this time seems different, I've lost my nerve and think a LEO is lurking behind every tree, around every corner, not a good way to enjoy the ride.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 12/16/2012 @ 6:22 PM *

but this time seems different, I've lost my nerve

I know how you feel, Not to worry your nerve will be back. Shame if it came back and all your babies were gone. Cost is high.

What works for me and it's advice I can give,,,, When Your Not Sure What To Do, DON'T DO ANYTHING. Time clears the mind makes all decisions absolute. Then, and only then will you be fine with what ever you have decided. Or beat yourself up later ?????

Wait.

Now hold on here....this aint happenin.You told me to "put it behind ya and don't beat yerself up"...okay...well...your turn now.It's JUST a ticket bro.Ferget about 'LEO'....drive the limit or some over...but get this thing behind ya.What's so darn horrible about a ticket?Sheesh...I get it...I do...but stopping because of a ticket and then worrying obsessively about gettin another one?So ya get another one...your riding life aint over because of it....right?Right.Hey...I wrecked my precious....my pride and joy...GONE....totalled.Hospital over a month.Nearly died.ICU for a week.Think it didn't cross my mind to say to the dealer.."nope...I'm done".....yeah...it did.You guys here were in my corner...told me I'ed get back in the saddle...I am...I can hardly wait for my new rocketship.I'm just gonna do things a bit different this time around.And you will too.Take Romes advice....wait...relax.FERGET about getting stopped...except that you'll take yer medicine and keep on doing what you love to do.THERE...now....go ride the speed limit on some tasty twisties....take yer time...enjoy the scenery...and take yer mirrors off if that's what ya need to do for a while(or tape em up,something)You don't stop ridin your bikes over this.Nope...you don't.

All the fun ya have...ridin with the Jagmiester...out by yerself...rollin....all you've learned...the blasts you've had...it's all still there.You go have a Starbucks and a smoke...and stop lettin the ticket get ya down.We ALL get stopped.But we don't stop ridin!And you aint gonna either...you're too far into this deal...railin....the gear...the fun.

"I've lost my nerve"...bullshit...I call bullshit.I ask ya Kruzerman....what nerve?What are you talking about?Your nerve to do what exactly?To ride?To speed?To put yerself in a position to be stopped?Just chill....Maybe this whole deal is an attitude adjustment for ya....perhaps some things were getting out of hand in yer riding and mind.You know what I'm talking about.These bikes are dangerous.Easy to forget we're not invincible.Sometimes circumstances put the brakes on for us...like with me.You can bet I won't be pushing like I did before....not because I'm 'afraid' to crash....but because life's more than just motorcycling...that's MY .02. Luv ya....chill...relax...listen to Romes.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/16/2012 @ 7:43 PM *

buddy, we gotta talk.

Nobody is going to tell you to give up on your bikes. They are all thinking clearly. I know how these run ins with the law work on you (as it did me). It is all a part of the game. Riding fast is far from over for you. You just do things differently now.

Track.

* Last updated by: Rook on 12/16/2012 @ 7:43 PM *

You're not giving up riding cause we're going to hit the twisties over the holidays. We will have fun with some safe sane spirited riding that no cop is gonna bother to mess with us over. You know we don't have to ride the IOM to really enjoy these bikes and as Grn said, soak up some of this beautiful Winter weather we're having in NTX.

Kruz before you do something you regret do one track day than go out for a ride on the streets with one of your sport bikes and see if you still feel you want to sell out!!!

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Two minds about selling her!
12/14/12 10:04 PM
A lot has gone on in my life since we moved home Sep 7 anyway cause of compo (my L/H )shoulder bursitis & my R/H leg still not right & other things going on, ive had little saddle time or interest to ride it, so ive bin thinking for months of getting out of riding full stop as im 50 & smashed up permanently and lost the desire But HangoON ! I just got back from a short ride to see if it,s still their and the way that engine growls at me when opening her up,I said to my self no this is me it,s who I am so im back I hope she dont get me into trouble with the law she,s so much a temptation to race anything every time im on her ! I guess i,ll never fully mature

* Last updated by: bean07 on 12/14/2012 @ 10:08 PM *

AC/DC Rocks my world: 12 Black ZX14r,with just some small add-ons

Kruz, you might try this....

1) You know you need to go fast. So get a track bike and get signed up for as many track days as you can get next year. You know that will get your speed fix for you and its a ton of fun. I really miss being able to ride a track bike, but eventually everyone needs to just give it up and move on.

2) Get a bike that suits the kind of non-fast riding you want to do. For me, it was a C14, because it is really competent in the twisties but very much at home going 8-10 hours down the road loaded with full luggage for a week-long trip and your girl on the back (so you know your luggage is full! /grin/).

Then you can go 180mph and not get put in jail for it, and still ride the street with less urge to violate the law.

I feel sorry for guys and girls who like going fast and don't live near roadracing tracks that hold motorcycle track days. When I was in San Jose CA all those years, Sears Point held bike track days and AMA amateur races almost every weekend during the spring, summer, and fall.

If I lived up near Watkins Glen I'd be pissed, because the Porsche Club (etc.) have the track rented a lot of spring and summer weekends, and it can be hard to make the few bike track days they have.

Guess it all depends on where you live. I've lived places where I could go with my hair on fire and not risk losing my license, but also that was a long time ago before LEO was so likely to just cart me off to jail and impound my bike for a mere 60 over.

I mean, I agree with anyone that wants to fast, what the hell do we own sportbikes for. But if there is any chance you might injure or kill someone other than yourself, and its not on a race track, you need to think hard before doing it. Because if you come around a sweeper dragging a knee at 120 and a little child is chasing a ball into the street on the blind side of the apex, and you killed that child, you'd have nightmares about that the rest of your life. And that is not the worst of it.

And you don't want that.

Now, on a road like this, with few access roads, excellant visibility around apexes, and no traffic, well.......

* Last updated by: privateer on 12/17/2012 @ 4:21 AM *

Thanks to everyone for all of the good advice, all points are well taken and I needed to hear this. My thinking right now is clouded...Romans is right, best thing to do right now is chill out and do nothing until the fog clears. I have way too much invested in bikes and gear to throw it all away because of my current state of mind. It will improve after I get some kind of resolution on this ticket and I'll probably make some major adjustments to the way I ride.

I got pretty lucky and had only two tickets in almost eight years, you start thinking you're invincible and the speeds start creeping up and you're going fast everywhere and then.....baaam..reality check!

I think that weekend with Jag out near Illinois Bend did it, we were going nutty fast on those deserted roads and I started craving that big speed, couldn't get enough. I realize now the locals were noticing too and on the phone.

Will look at doing a track day or two and see how I like it and if it cures my speed addiction, will probably need to pick up a bike trailer as I don't want to ride to the track on race slicks, if I'm going to do this I want to do it right.

Hey...I wrecked my precious....my pride and joy...GONE....totalled.Hospital over a month.Nearly died.ICU for a week.Think it didn't cross my mind to say to the dealer.."nope...I'm done".....yeah...it did.You guys here were in my corner...told me I'ed get back in the saddle...I am...I can hardly wait for my new rocketship.I'm just gonna do things a bit different this time around.And you will too.

True Grn, we have to be there for each other, that's the way it works. My thing is nothing compared to what you've been through, I realize that. I told Rook last night, we all need to see you back on that new 14R and having a good time, it's therapy for all of us, believe me. I know I spent many an hour on the phone with Rook when he got "The Big One" a few years ago, told him it would all work out and he'd enjoy his ride again someday. He kept his bikes, adjusted, slowed down a little bit....lol...and is enjoying his bikes again.

You are thinking about selling your bikes because you got a ticket? I can't believe you just said that.

Let me share something that happened to me when I was 19 years old. On my way home after spending a night drag racing at a local 1/8-mile local track, I was beaten senseless by five rogue police officers. I was arrested and thrown into jail. My crime? I was stopped at 1:00am in the morning at a traffic light waiting for it to turn green. I spent months defending myself in court. In the end I ended up paying hundreds of dollars in fines for a crime I did not commit. Actually, my parents paid, I was still a college student. ( I was charged with speeding, disobeying a police officer for neglecting to stop, my exhaust being too loud, etc) They were all fabricated charges. My bike had expansion chambers, so it was a little loud, lol Like I said, I was simply waiting at a traffic light for it to turn green at 1:00am in a desolated part of my hometown.

I was 19 years old, but I learned a valuable lesson that night. As a very pissed off proud owner of one of the fastest Kawasaki 750 triples in my hometown, I promised myself that if I could get away with it, I would never ever again stop when ordered by the police.

Kofla

NINJA ZX-14 MotoVlog

Well, I do have some good news to share. I called the JP in the county I was ticketed in and they offered me deferred adjudication, 30 days for $300, that includes the $250 ticket. Sounds like a deal to me, now just slow it down and stay out of trouble for 30 days.

Kofla, there is a thread I started two weeks ago called "Would You Run?" where we all discuss this very scenario. I'm not going to sell anything but was feeling very paranoid over the last two weeks and especially this weekend. Your mind plays tricks on you and everything in your rear view mirror starts looking like a black and white. I've been here before, the feeling goes away eventually but it does take some time.

Running has never been part of my plan, once the lights come on I'm pulling over.

There...now yer talkin....250?That's not so bad....I had one like that myself....you'll chalk it up to experience...and get out and ride....good...so that's settled then...you pay the fine....and you keep riding.I want some Vids of you(and)Jagmiester....just some fun riding times...nothing koo koo.Okay? While you're riding...I'm sittin here wishing...well...it's ice and snow everywhere now...but....still....You ride the limit...or slightly above..you won't be needin to look in yer 6 o'clock.Tape those mirrors.aND GO AND RIDE bRO!

aND MY 'EXAMPLE'...YOU KNOW i WASN'T TRYING TO MINIMIZE YOUR SITUATION....What's serious and upsetting to you is your deal.Anyone would be concerned about what they're gonna do.I understand.Even getting pulled over...without a ticket...it's unsettling...kinda messes up the rest of the ride...I get it.

Keerectomundo Kruzerman...running is NOT an option...EVER.Good you accept that.

I know the Jagman will be relieved...he wants ta ride with ya...that's awesome...sometimes hard to find a good fellow rider that knows their shit.You go and have fun....you guys seem to klick well together...excellent!

Cool vid there Priv....very nice and fun looking.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/17/2012 @ 12:40 PM *

Actually I did run once when I was a kid, 19 years old on a Yamaha RD-350 cafe racer, a two smoker with chambers. I stood it up coming off a light and as luck would have it, LEO was across the intersection. His lights came on and I took off. After putting some distance on him, I pulled into an apartment complex and opened up someones patio gate and rolled my bike in there. I waited 30 minutes then cautiously pulled out of the complex and ran straight into the waiting LEO. He said he could take me down, six violations including evading arrest. I couldn't believe it when he let me off with a warning.

GEEZ!He had NO idea he was setting you up for the future,did he?Good thing ya went the other path!Runnun is a HUGE gamble....huge.Not one I'm willing to do.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/17/2012 @ 12:42 PM *

Thanks Grn, not quite out of the funk yet but that was definitely a boost to my spirits when she said 30 days for the deferred adjudication. That keeps it of your record and keeps you insurance carrier off your case. Anyway, maybe I take these things a bit too serious, sounds like there's plenty around who don't think a traffic ticket is a big deal.

Traffic tickets are a big deal...they mean something.I haven't had one now for a few seasons....warnings...that's what I got...scarey enough not knowing what that LEO is gonna do right there.You never know.I hate getting pulled over.Shit happens though...you roll with it...even if it means 'taking a break' to get yer mind cleared.Sa'll good Kruz.

I still say...IF I'd have gotten pulled over the day I wrecked...which I 'should have'...passing that copper who was parked on the other side there(in the vid)...I'd not be wishing I had a bike...and all the rest.That was about 10 minutes before my 'ooopps'.I was pullin a good 90 when I went past him...I know he could tell I was rollin.One of those times when..."I WISH" i'd gotten stopped.What's REALLY weird...is that he didn't come after me...that's just straight weird.Easy ticket...guess we all have to 'learn' our OWN things as we cruise along....some lessons harder than others....no way would I have entered that crash deal the way I did if I had gotten stopped.Especially being that close to the actual event.(where's a cop when ya NEED him)...right?Sheesh.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/17/2012 @ 12:57 PM *

I just thought of somethin...I wonder how he felt AFTER he heard on his Police radio.."Motorcycle accident at such and such"....There was only ONE fast azz GREEN bike went flyin by him at that time frame.Hope he learned somethin!;)

There's only a couple of local police out there...he most likely showed up at the wrecksite...me layin there...lookin doa.He couldn't tell em.."yeah,that's the bike that went by me a ways back"....no way.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/17/2012 @ 1:03 PM *

I quit riding for eight years in my twenties.I had 10 crashes on my first bike a new 75 Z-1.Was so out of my leauge.Then I bought a new 83 GS 1100E.I never crashed it once.Learned the finer points of riding like cornering and cruising.That bike was fun.So much fun I bought two more.So just relax and take it easy.It's easier then trying to get back into it years later.I wasted my twenties when I didn't have too.
Craig

30 days for the deferred adjudication

* Last updated by: Rook on 12/17/2012 @ 1:19 PM *

@Kruz regarding the first post: belay that static and clear the channel young man! Make revolutions for 75mph and engage the final drive. Command has assigned Jagmeister to clock your six and run interference.

How copy?

;)

Sounds like Star Trek lingo there Hagrid, maybe it's time to engage the warp drive and have Scotty hot wire in a cloaking device...lol! Yea, I do feel safer running with another bike, don't know why as they can stop two as easy as one....unless one makes a break for it. I think misery loves company.

OK, took Grn's advice and road the 14 tonight, decent ride, punched her in the kidneys a couple of times when the coast looked clear but ran the limit most of the time.

I appreciate the pep talk folks, been really down since I got nailed. Really bad part was I was having one of those memorable rides that day where I was right in "The Zone" where everything is just clickin and you're totally flowin with the road's special rythym and then the red and blue flashers came on and crashed the party!

Grn, don't second guess, what happened, happened for a reason. I know it sux right now just like my deal but we'll both get through it, put it behind us and by next fall you'll have plenty of new adventures to share with us on that new road rocket. If the Good Lord had wanted you gone, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

How is the recovery? You feel like you can handle a test ride on a new 14R?

Nothing wrong with reassessing your riding style and how that impacts your wallet. To quote Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, "we've all got it coming, kid".

Selling the scooters? You, me, and everyone else here knows that isn't the answer.

Like I told Dogo, if I get down to 250#, I'm doing track days. And I'll look just like him too... a gorilla impregnating a football.

* Last updated by: hagrid on 12/17/2012 @ 7:06 PM *