I am at a website reading their, 'new posts' and a title catches my attention. They are discussing track day and what some of the riders do out there.

It seems and you tell me, but one posts mentioned that guys more or less form a group or their tiny circle? That seems OK to me if others have some sort of click going is their deal from month to month showing up each time.

But, here is what I read on another post. He was kind of on a smaller bike or a 1000 is I am assuming now. Then he starts to complain about some guy on a 14 who rips him up in the straights, and now he and the 14 are at the corners and I guess the 1000 or other bike can corner deeper and there is the 14 back behind, forced by the fairing dragging.

Then here he comes again down to next straight is gobble him up again or say; his next comment was funny. Because he wanted the 14 rider (Who are you pain in the ass messing with their head) to send him to the novice class, but he was, "afraid the 14 coming down any novice's neck was too much for a new green/green/jellybean beginner." < OK, I paraphrased it.

Can you imagine what that guy sees with his Kruzickle..... BTW, Kruz, my old lady made a monster, I told her was cross my t's and dot my eyes. I see I made a monster here is Kruz Kamunicaltion at it's finest.

Either way... They are on to me. Give'm a dose of, Wheelieeeeeeeeeeeeeee is can be the instigator even to a spider is ruin his day. I just want to know if that guy is here that ruins the day he shows up for track day is buy him a drink.

Notice the wings and flaps UPosition... UP and Personal... [WATT An] ASS he grace is, almost ass if a bird in flight. Too bad he missed me with me looking at the camera << AT FULL COCKed Position. In about a half an hour, WEE- WEE gonna show UPulling IS!

STAY TUNED!

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/9/2009 @ 2:30 PM *

K Tore 200 TT. ATE CHEER Service. TEar you a new ass is hole... Social Science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqwm6RbxcQ&feature=related

That guy thought it not apropo to load my wad. So, I need to hand someone my camera and make a pass at the lens. Never give up attitude is sorry you!

I sent a bomb into a thread. We are talking big time names and I just ripped one off is tear open some azz of an editor and his social science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnztQTYb26I&feature=related WOT have I been telling y'all?

track DAY PRACTICE never stops for one second. Trail Braking at it's finest.

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2008models/2008-Ducati-Hypermotard1100Se.jpg Raising the bar.

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/11/2009 @ 12:33 AM *

WTF WOW just fucking WOW

Care to share a link to that new post? :)

More photos of your bike?

Regarding that last youtube vid...I guess I'm still not very comfortable with my front brake too much. I use it for higher incremental decelerations and use my rear with it (at times, not always) as a way to gradually increase braking without fear of locking it or losing the front. I'm not sure how wise it is for someone to tell a guy to just put his foot on the peg and forget the rear...hopefully he was teaching the intermediate/advanced groups.

He's teaching the novice first timers is wise UP. I'm a bar stepper. I climbed back on a bike in '06 after a few years off them. I decided to keep the reflexes alive by getting older is become bolder. Pulled the rear caliper to force myself to commit 100% on the front braking power.

My "Warning Banner" is tattoo'voodoo'd all over my body. You follow my lead, you may just die trying my stunts. Make you a damn better rider if you survive. Maybe it's not wise. Wize guy I'm sure not in the mood to kill the military type coming back and offing themselves without my help.

T-Type personality = Take Chances to a "T." And yes, I know my limitations. I'm still reaching it. I'll find it. And if not?!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VyrnAkEqGg&feature=related I watched all 7 videos. Watched how Keith runs the show. Watch the instructor. They set an "X" where you need to step there for your basic setup and entry. This is more good PR for Keith's school.

Now that Keith has a contract for a fleet of RR's at your disposal, you can see the drills you need go through, the guy's progression and he comes up short on the X marks the spot. That's how hard it is to force yourself to hang it out a lot deeper, aiming for that X before you throw it in. Video is deceiving.

Looks like you have an instructor out there that stays on top of you. Plus, you get to go at your own pace once the single file thins out. Must be something there if Keith is still at it.

I'd like to hit the front straight heading for turn one, see how the front brakes match up against fatty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VyrnAkEqGg&feature=related

* Last updated by: Hub on 5/4/2010 @ 9:35 PM *

Hub you use to a race right?? you should alreay know the answer to that one. The soft front would compress the rear would get loose and wiggle all over the place. In the mean time while your dealing with a 550lb rocking horse he would be through the turn and getting setup for the next one.

I disagree. Even race bikes, [watch Rossi Brake] can lift the rear up and she is still stable. Say the both of you are at full compression with the forward weight bias, so both are on even keel. It's the braking going in deep that matters in racing, no matter the bike. It's who tags the lever last.

Perfect example is when cars are braking for slow traffic ahead, I move over as if blind; going into some smoking tire you can't see ahead. I play NASCAR style I close my eyes and gas it. Am I about to brake and be collected or can I hammer the brakes and stop faster than a car.

High speed street speed and high speed race speed are two different animals. You have someone experience speed in a closed course without anything in the way, trains you for some street action. Makes you a better rider, not for the classroom training, but the hands on, you are free to speed and brake, speed and brake as fast as any big name racer, in some prototype car or on a factory race bike. They use the same track(s).

Now, apply that to the street, you speed and brake. I think it was video #4 where the drill was to speed thru the turn without using the brake? Well, I do that all the time with the 14. See, the drills are just some smart guy figuring out the basics and I never heard of this, fly in without the brakes exercise. That's when that little window of leaving the bike scene, come back, see how Keith had it figured way back then. I had to have it mentioned like, doesn't everyone do this? That's why I can get away without the back brake. I guess I figured it out without having a back brake on my first 14. I have a fresh set of pads that came with the bike still. Didn't need it then, don't need it now.

So, it's more you try to grasp what they mean by the, 'line.' Part of that "X" is the next setup you are not so deep a brake'r. I think all the training schools have the same basics down. It's all about timing. And when timing at high speed can be mastered, you can run the street and hardly touch the brakes on short WOT runs. You sense the distance if you race long enough. You may have to build on it, going to one trackday or taking up a Keith type course.

And no, you do not take a Keith or any of the other racing type course and all of a sudden you can beat who is out there in the AMA/FIM. Guys/Gals still would be champions if no one had any training courses to offer. Takes a certain breed I think. But what do I know.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/4770771356/in/set-72157624316405131/ Better line.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/4770771576/in/set-72157624316405131/ Leaner loser.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/4770766044/in/set-72157624316405131/ Sucker line.

The way to be smooth is to see the turns up ahead.

1. Leaner loser; is about to push his bike out to the left, then come back to the right to turn left?

2. Better line; is a one line wonder. You wonder if he knows the road how it turns or snakes all the way up that canyon. This is you skid mark straight into the wall, he had no other plan but one turn at a time is to look straight ahead. This is how you bend the guard rails through a road like this.

3. Sucker line; is to see that loser of a leaner wannabe in my sights. 'OL Plowboy in the MB convertible, hanging out in the curve is where you want to be. But his apex is the curve, lol. However, the setup is to yank the bars right, so you are now ready to either clip the front end off of Leaner loser, or checkup, clip his rear tire, keep him pushed out to the left, he blows the line going left if he is already left he has to lift or plow into me.

And because you are moving slow in reality, you have the sucker following your line on the outside. Sucker line photo has the fish on the hook and moving my rear end of the lure slow enough to let the guy know he needs to keep following me in; as I made a torque of a move on that guy going up the hill.

I have that handle bar about to be cocked over a lot more, because I am hanging out and my apex is more up the hill than in the middle of the turn, and that would be, Leaner loser's idea of heading up that hill. He may be looking good leaned over, but his exit is where?

Where, the sucker is all setup for the hug to the right and that next dive into the left-hander up the hill. With 3 photos, one over-shoots the apex, the other may have the apex undershot and too early, whereas the look ahead apex is to setup for the next turn, not thinking there is a straight road or an exit left> are the other lines taken at the same spot.

http://www.cvmaracing.com/

Looks interesting. I'd bring a broom.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=43130 "Bump'EM Benny!" I'll call him. He's sitting back and has plenty. I'm keeping an eye on this one. Check about 6:03 and that high side happening you are not sprung right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EglLi6nZnZU I found this universally cool as if any sport was being spoken.

These are from rudewaysingworld <sp

Notice how you do not need to hang off we center down the bike's seat-center and now the rider's plumber cleavage center.
Notice how you are on GP kind of trickle down brake master cylinders and calipers you do not need the rears you taking a bite down on the fronts at the last split-second. The rudder-catches-the front to come back.

It's a matter of working the brakes and how the body changes for it. Spies just has his style as with any other style; You're at max lean and you are feel-curbing that bike's every inch under you till you sit the bike back up again.

I'm trying to find where I said Checa would win today. He has that fire in him. I saw it last year he was just flat out faster. And there you go.

http://www.totalcontroltraining.net/ Wanna ride like that Japanese police agility course on a 14? Wait for the end of the video [if you watch it].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSdwfAOm2c&feature=feedrec_grec_index

This Kawi/Appy type bike is more a play bike... Stop me!

Then again, if this does not sell bike. Look at that top crown not flinch. Look at that torque once you see it show some shit @ 4:44.

Then again, I see thishit and why would I get off the 14 with so much more torque.

Torque me more me, Kawi!

I'm suiting up for some fastshit BRING IT!

Dis is my bat room reader I remember Byron saying he, 'used someone's magazine for toilet paper around the shop' anshit.

Analway, I receives a supplemental, 'track directory,' found on page 18, 2011 weirdwaysingworld and cough-cough, technology is pass some gas is wait for the next page. However, we see a 14 as 'lead bike?' Does that mean, catch up to the fast guys? LOL

And for the dis service on the dismount of said chain off sprocket... No mention of keying up some simple tech is now lost on page 58 = NOT MY BIKE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWFB14oq-pE&feature=feedrec_grec_index

Knee clenched on hand or is it the other way around I can't look away!

Hub that is the greatest video ever!!!!!!!!!

^^^^That was a cool one.

To adress earlier question:

Then he starts to complain about some guy on a 14 who rips him up in the straights, and now he and the 14 are at the corners and I guess the 1000 or other bike can corner deeper and there is the 14 back behind,

If the guy was on a 600 and killed him in the corners he would be complaining that the bike was too slow for him to max out the starights. It's a track day and there is everything out there. I saw some slow f***er on some kind of a beatup dirt bike that burned as much oil as it did fuel --with a big skull where the headlight would be. He was slow as f**ck on the straightaways but he was probably having a blast in the corners and he obviously did not give a rip about what the bike looked like and probably couldn't care less if he dropped it.

You don't like the track and want MORE damn rules (you are not allowed to do wheelies -- that is for the street we were told--lol)??? Go back to the street. You get out of novice class and you are permitted to pass on the corners so if you really have a set of cajones like you think you do, you just try to pass that 14 on the outside and hope he can't stay with you too long or else you are back behind getting your arse eaten up 10x easier than you passed him.

It is a PITA to have other riders in your way but it is not YOUR WAY. I had guys and chicks on smaller bike sin my way and I just passed them. Damn near crashed to stay in front but nobody could complain that I was not fast enough on the corners with my overpowered bike.

hhheheh. I'm sure it gets to be a different picture as the skill level increases. Expert level everyone is fast as hell and the bike and equipment starts to mean a lot more. Even so, if you are an expert, you need to deal with expert problems and come up with solutions. Don't blame the other guy because he is too hard to get in front of. What the fork game are we playing if not keep ahead of the pack?

* Last updated by: Rook on 6/26/2011 @ 5:35 PM *

Believe it or not, this is the future. If I were much much younger, I would be in this like in the shorts no less. That says I can do it. Then, apply this to the track = When needed. This is a tool. Nothing but one more riding tool.

And since I got you hear, Rook, I am enjoying getting booted off websites. No thinking out of the box blues you lose. The next one is for you. I'm going to load up a wrist ride. Premium rpm call it.

You come back with that camera all double rpm'ing, I'm going to rip you a new asshole you did not practice from then till now. If you are going out again, the deal is once again, 'the basics baby!"

Slow smooth shifts. Do not bring no RPM again. Double slicing is to scare the sheep. You'll see. "hold my hand" Laaaa Laaa -La -la-la -la...