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Created on: 08/14/11 11:22 AM

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madskillz



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CrankShaft
08/14/11 11:22 AM

Will a 2006 Crank Shaft work in a 2008 zx14?
(Note)They have different part numbers



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 11:52 AM

I know the clutches are different. I'm not sure what would be different about the cranks, but i'd say if the part numbers are different they are different.



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 1:41 PM

Crank used to transfer to clutch, via primary chain. Engines began to shrink and become more powerful with less cc. As the bikes became lighter in a faster package, the primary chain's weight/length was eliminate.

Here is your interchange problem. As some of you crybabies complain about noise, those complaints are addressed via gear cut noise. You know that Z1 engine noise by the sound of the gears meshing somehow? Well, at some point, baby 14 was fast and noisy. Mother tea pot, changed not only the pistons so they broke in quieter, they also cut the crank to clutch meshing gear to gear... No primary needed. It also took some of the signature big block noise from the king, which is a familiar sound to us old fart'inn fellas.

On page 9-2 of the factory manual, you can see how big they blew up the primary sprocket call it. The balancer sprocket is the other gear for those two puppies. Without the chain connecting from crank-to-clutch outer basket, they ratio'd in the crank to clutch basket via gear meshing each other. Where, you are not keen to all those subtle changes you are not told about of this engine family. When tea pot hands out that press kit, here comes the internals/external trivia, i.e. that aluminum air cleaner cover vs. the plastic external kind of changes all over the bike.

Did tea pot say, 'We knew the comp was going to come out and get us, so we up the bike's HP a little.' Yeah, one stinking HP or say you read what little has changed was the HP gain, but the torque remained the same. So, I think we can sort of conclude, the gear cut did not up the HP, nor did it lose any torque, nor gain from it.

Maybe at this stage of the tuning internals, it comes down to the head flow. Sans the mapping, it sure was not some straight gear vs. that conical cut gear [meshed] to the basket cut gear. Page 6-2 shows you the straight cut gears. A trivia question would be to find the late model 14 shop manual. Open to the clutch and engine blowout picture. See if they used the same drawing. Then, see if the conical was drawn in the later book's blowout page. I would assume you should see the difference in these pages. Sure bet if I were to draw up a shop manual, I'd have shown the early book blowout, then the model changed to the conical cut. It's obvious about that slash being more the cut that is the more quiet cut; like the rear end [ring and pinion] used in a car.

The question is, why change if there is no advantage sans you need both hard parts if you take out a crank via what salvaged year you find, Right? You blow up your 010, find a low miler 006. Yes, the first year fits the late year as vice/verse would be the same, no?


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madskillz



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 7:47 PM

ummmmm So in all that I take it that it will not fit?



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 8:00 PM

Basically.



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 8:09 PM

Okay! Thank you



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 8:59 PM

The Hubbishithe fuck did he say? That was the long, drawn out, waste your minutes call me black and white is not hardly the version you are going to receive. Oh, you wanted the black and white quick I gotta go waste my minutes? Here it comeshortsweetshithe fuckiss you got it:

Will a 2006 Crank Shaft work in a 2008 zx14?

No.



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RE: CrankShaft
08/14/11 9:01 PM

(Note)They have different part numbers

Noted. Model update changed to non-interchangeability parts. Match all 'part numbers' to your year.


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