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Created on: 01/30/11 05:36 PM

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pghzx14



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Do i need it?
01/30/11 5:36 PM

Hi guys. I have a 2008 zx14 and looking to put a exhaust on. So the question is it necessary to use a power-commander with just slip ons? If not will she run ok or not? Thinking about leo vince any body have these on their ride?

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RE: Do i need it?
01/30/11 5:46 PM

No you do not Need It, but the power commander will help you get the most out of you new pipes.

Lots of guys run like this. Enjoy the weight savings and buy it later if cash is tight. I started that way. Once the hook is set we will talk again I'm sure lol.

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RE: Do i need it?
01/30/11 6:06 PM

mmmmmmm-HM, uuuh-huh. Don't follow the forums if you want to save money.

The decision is really all yours, pghzx14. The blue pill or the red pill. Take your choice.

welcome. ;)


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RE: Do i need it?
01/30/11 9:06 PM

Rook, that was hilarious! I'm in the same boat looking some slip ons saw the yoshi carbon r77 on a Suzuki at the gym and they looked great



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RE: Do i need it?
01/30/11 9:43 PM

It is so true---you can be happy riding a stock bike if you never want to know what modding is all about. If you choose to learn the secrets you can never go back.


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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 12:17 AM


If you choose to learn the secrets you can never go back.



"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” HST

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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 3:16 AM

^^^^The RSS fedd holds many secrets. We will have to have a look at that.



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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 5:16 AM

buy the pc3 first b4 anything else. forget the slip-ons few hundred $$$ more and you can get a full system (that youll end up getting anyways) trust me youll be happier with the full system. I spent $600 on slip=ons only to 6 months later spend another $2000 for my ct duals. not saying a full system is gonna cost ya 2k there are others out there for around a grand. good luck with whatever you decide.


imo take the red pill lmao



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Hub


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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 7:20 AM

No, it is not necessary for slips.



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Rook


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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 11:43 AM

buy the pc3 first b4 anything else. forget the slip-ons few hundred $$$ more and you can get a full system (that youll end up getting anyways) trust me youll be happier with the full system.

You can put the PC on first and get a little familiar with how it works. You can load a DJ map for a stock zx14 and it will make a slight improvement. My first performance mod was a PC5 ---which was and is the latest--seemed to be capable of more fine tuning (if you get into it enough to figure all of that tuning business out) and just a little more expensive than the PC3.

+1 on the full system. I'm glad I went that way as soon as I could afford an aftermarket exhaust. Slipons are fine but a good full system will optimize all that engine you paid for.


TAKE RED PILL.........or wake up in your bed thinking this was all a dream.



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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 12:46 PM

If you choose to learn the secrets you can never go back.

You have dynojet for $400 and you have innovate for $250. You have a faster sample rate with innovate. You can find a spark miss with Inn's software. Dynomiss ain't happening with that option screen. YOu want to know if you have a safe ratio? There you go. Crazy prices with more options it's a no brainer.



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Hub


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RE: Do i need it?
01/31/11 12:47 PM

TAKE THE BLUE PILL... Look out, here he comes!



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yubee



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RE: Do i need it?
02/03/11 4:06 AM

I'm looking at buying a used 08 ZX14 for with a power commander V installed already. Would want to take if off. Now . would I need to re-tune the bike ?

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RE: Do i need it?
02/03/11 5:24 AM

I'm looking at buying a used 08 ZX14 for with a power commander V installed already. Would want to take if off. Now . would I need to re-tune the bike ?

why would you want to take it off?
Hi guys. I have a 2008 zx14 and looking to put a exhaust on. So the question is it necessary to use a power-commander with just slip ons? If not will she run ok or not? Thinking about leo vince any body have these on their ride?

the bike comes from the factory tuned within an inch of it's life for strict emission laws so even a totally stock bike could benefit from a tune

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RE: Do i need it?
02/03/11 8:01 PM

pgh

hub had the correct answer, short and sweet, too. You don't need it.

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bean07


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RE: Do i need it?
02/03/11 8:54 PM

on mine 09ZX WITH leovince + dyno after the PCV was a big change for the $$$$



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russty



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RE: Do i need it?
02/04/11 11:56 PM

lemme know if that PC5 hits the market...



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RE: Do i need it?
02/05/11 2:19 AM

Well Lee's spoton in Mount Pleasant Installed it(PCV/Dyno) August last year



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RYN0CER0S


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RE: Do i need it?
02/05/11 10:46 PM

runnerhiker, first of all, WHY take it off? but, if you want to, the stock ECU wasn't changed by the PCV. If you remove the PCV, it reverts to stock tuning. No more of a need to re-tune than if you bought it new.
pgh, slip-ons will not dramatically change the performance of the bike, however, as hub said, ANY bike will benefit from a PC and re-tune. But, you do not NEED it any more than you NEED the slip-ons, lol.
If you do get slip-ons, you will enjoy the sound and slight performance advantage, however, I am sure that eventually you will want the additional performance and weight savings of a full exhaust. Really, it is up to you what you really want out of your bike. I rode mine for only 100 miles before I dropped a load of weight going with a full Brock's exhaust and saw noticeable improvement in handling and, I am sure, increased hp. Others prefer the look and sound of dual exhaust and a set of slip-ons may make more sense for you.



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