If you have a PCIII USB on your bike, you may want to check those throttle point settings. I hadn't looked at mine on my 14 in over 3 years since the original install. Figured they were right on and wouldn't change...wrong!

Using Jeff's method I found I was off by 2%. The first throttle position on your map is 2% so this can wreck your bottom end fuel delivery Do not use the 9v battery to set the throttle points, the numbers will not be accurate! I did it Jeff's way with engine running and then set them using the 9v battery without the engine running and the numbers were different.

I repeat, you have to have the bike running to reset the closed and open throttle points accurately.

Problem is setting the open throttle point at wide open throttle with the bike running in neutral might float a valve if your not real careful.

Jeff has a simple trick he came up with to bypass this problem and it works well. It's not in DynoJet's tutorial and I doubt I would have thought of it on my own. He doesn't want us to give it away as it's part of his map service and I will certainly honor that agreement. Ever notice how the "Current" numbers jump around while you're trying to set the throttle points? If you hit the "reset" button, you capture one of those fleeting numbers but is it the right one? Jeff has a trick for this as well and it's simple. I think it was well worth $50 just to get the accelerator pump settings and throttle point setting method.

How did my 14 run after resetting the throttle points and activating the accelerator pump feature using Jeff's settings? Bike is now running much crisper with seriously improved throttle response in all gears and at all engine speeds. Just off idle in first, a quick snap of the wrist and I thought it was going to jerk my arms off....brutal! Unfortunately, all was not perfect with my CBR map experience, more on that to come.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/21/2009 @ 7:14 AM *

Brutal!

zNow we are back to engine valve float my 2%?

I really need to buy a PC and 0% my shit out is a freebie to you. Butt till I get one. I'm gonna come gun'inn for use is Pea See is sea, I GotSue covered, Sheena.

WATT just Happened? "First time with a PC5" and the jetting was that far off is pee see in my cylinder wash down. Look, I'm glad it came up for the PC5 crowd but still cost 'grief' than the money shelled out for plugs. I know that Tfi can shut me down with a fouling plug just at idle; just move that pot screw.

I know Jeff means well. Maybe he has the pc3 nailed on so much. I heard enough 'abstract' as how the steps are flaming out the back.

"Oh, my... I don't think we are in cans ass anymore, Fluffy."

Using Jeff's method I found I was off by 2%. The first throttle position on your map is 2% so this can wreck your bottom end fuel delivery Do not use the 9v battery to set the throttle points, the numbers will not be accurate! I did it Jeff's way with engine running and then set them using the 9v battery without the engine running and the numbers were different.

I have been dealing with the same issue from day one. No 9VOLT. And it's not a dead battery. I called Dyno jet and let them know back in 2007. I was made to feel like I was nuts( toooo fussy). I let them link to my computer so they could see what I was seeing and then things got Quiet on the phone. Maybe I am too fussy, but this info makes me feel better. Cheers.

He doesn't want us to give it away as it's part of his map service and I will certainly honor that agreement.

So how we supposed to "Check those Throttle Point Settings" if ya ain't gonna tell us how to do it? Plus ya say the 9 volt battery gives different numbers? Sounds like voodoo to me.

Just off idle in first, a quick snap of the wrist and I thought it was going to jerk my arms off....brutal!

I hadn't looked at mine on my 14 in over 3 years since the original install.

and dis after the man rode for 3 years on the best perfect street map of all times with power to spare and now he found brutal.. good god almighty dis can't get better can it ..

hub send krusty kruz a map pleeze ..

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 9/21/2009 @ 8:03 PM *

I could have Kruz sit on my bike, set it one way, have him take a ride and come back. I'd throw a few settings, remove something, Kruz comes back again. I remove something else, set another combo, Kruz comes back, he is going to praise one loop after the other the bike keeps stepping up.

All I did was remove a stock air cleaner, one stock exhaust pipe and a muffler bearing.

And how brutal of Kruz to dis Ivan's setup after all those years; pin my rev limiter; praise my guy and now, "throw him under the bus!" zMan, I hope he's OK? Should I call, 119?

I must've missed something. Who's Jeff?

Jeff is the FAIC tune guy. You know, the $50 map guy. He's becoming a household name.

hub send krusty kruz a map pleeze ..

Wake up Rot and pay close attenshun this time, Hub don't have no map, Hub don't even have a pea sea3.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/22/2009 @ 7:27 AM *

I must've missed something. Who's Jeff?

Sorry, rooks right, he's the map guy.

Kruz

could have Kruz sit on my bike

I've seen your ride Hub....that's all I'm going to say.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/22/2009 @ 7:34 AM *

So how we supposed to "Check those Throttle Point Settings" if ya ain't gonna tell us how to do it? Plus ya say the 9 volt battery gives different numbers? Sounds like voodoo to me.

...ask Rotty, he knows everything.

Kruz

Romans wrote:

I have been dealing with the same issue from day one. No 9VOLT. And it's not a dead battery. I called Dyno jet and let them know back in 2007. I was made to feel like I was nuts( toooo fussy). I let them link to my computer so they could see what I was seeing and then things got Quiet on the phone. Maybe I am too fussy, but this info makes me feel better. Cheers.

No you are right on Romans, the 9 volt battery is good for uploading maps and that's about it. I'm finding a lot of problems with the way DynoJet does things. They would have you to believe that you can go into any Authorized DynoJet Tuning Center, drop $300 on the counter and your bike is going to run perfect. Not true. I stick to my guns, if done properly, the auto tune is a baseline starting point that will allow your bike to run without fouling a plug or cooking a cylinder but is far from optimal. The map has to be tweeked by a knowledgeable tuner out on the road and I'm still waiting to meet that guy.

Kruz

The map has to be tweeked by a knowledgeable tuner out on the road and I'm still waiting to meet that guy.

1+ Keep waiting. The next tuner is going to out tune the other. Top fuel trickle down the 16 tuners and yeah, the driver is one. But the tune gets you there. Jeffo is there and schooled your rump. So thumbs up to, Jeffo on the technical part.

Service is everything or they won't come back is word of mouth my vacation tuning. Consistency is everything!

and dis after the man rode for 3 years on the best perfect street map of all times with power to spare and now he found brutal

dats right Rotster and it's even better now..... so kiss my grits!

Kruz

Jeffo is there and schooled your rump. So thumbs up to, Jeffo on the technical part.

Hub, I think i'll let Jeffo tune your rump and then you can tell me about it over a beer. J/K Hub but I think Jeffo may be on the right track here.. it takes a few tries to dial in the map.

Kruz

Can't argue with results.Me-if it wakes her up even more and runs better than she ever did-who cares how he got there?WoHooo!(I'm dumb like that).Okay-I went through TWO nine volt batteries(when I first installed my PCIII)just setting the Accelerator pump deal, and loading the map-with the software on my computer.The thing sucks the life out of the batteries like,right now.Best to install and set using your bike.There's nothing wrong with the PC-it just uses a lot of juice to get what it needs.I wouldn't trust the readings knowing that it works like that.ALSO,they say in the instructions HOW to set all those things-but the key is KNOWING what exactly you're setting and why you're doing it.They ARE non committal on the accelerator pump settings-think they say"you have to experiment" with the settings to get the best performance.What might be good for me and my riding style may be crap for someone else.So you've got all these areas(not the fuel mix) to adjust "hoping" to find the right configuration.With a vague "baseline" set of values to start at.Mine were off by quite a bit-and I was using the DJ baseline settings for their"street" application.If I remember correctly,the "tutorial"section on the cd explains HOW to set throttle position-and how to set the numbers as well.So you don't need Jeff's instructions for that(?)(could be wrong here?)My original numbers for that application were fairly close-but resetting it the way Jeff said did show a difference-enough of one to reset the values.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 9/22/2009 @ 2:14 PM *

Blue, I think if you follow DynoJets instructions, the recommended sensitivity is set just a tad too high on the accelerator pump on both street and racing applications. If it's too high, every time you twitch when in cruise mode you get a squirt of fuel. I did notice cruising the freeway, slight wrist movements make the bike jump a bit but I'm OK with that, feels very responsive. Jeff's instructions for the accel pump was pretty much the same as from the DJ tutorial. Only difference is he's done a little homework on dialing in the settings and they worked really well on both my sportbikes. I don't know if they're optimal but they work well enough now that I'm satisfied.

Kruz

I went through TWO nine volt batteries

Jeff did show me somethng else that was pretty cool. Go into the USB software, select Tools and then select Environment Options and click on "Highlight Current Position in Active Table"

Now hook up your PCIII to your laptop and run the engine. As you move the throttle and the rpm changes, the cell your in will light up. Pretty cool, you could actually strap the laptop on your bike, ride it and do real time diagnostics.
Might be a bit dangerous though, too bad there is no data logger function on there.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/22/2009 @ 2:47 PM *

Ya-I haven't messed with the battery deal since I first bought it in 07.I just connect it to my bike-viola!Reloading the new map's gonna be a cinch.I'm goin ridin now!!!!Later!

The map has to be tweeked by a knowledgeable tuner out on the road and I'm still waiting to meet that guy.

Kruz, I thought we had that guy ?

Kruz, I thought we had that guy ?

Kruz

all in about 10 minutes after doing it a couple times. Problem is, I probably won't fool with it again for years and then I'll have forgotten everything.

Well, I kind of hinted to this. Just write the How-To, Professor. It's not like you changed the software you swore you would not alter as you read those stupid "I agree" like I want to change your obsolete shit?