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Thread: Any harm in disabling kill switch?

Created on: 03/28/11 12:53 PM

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Madmak


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Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/28/11 12:53 PM

Actually, I want to use the 2 position switch for something else (plate up / plate down) and I have never used the kill switch on any bike, I just use the ignition to shut em down. Only 1 wire goes through the switch on the 14, closed it starts, open it doesn't.



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Edgecrusher


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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/28/11 1:08 PM

Well as long as you never get in an accident and your key breaks off, happened to me, then you should always be able to shut the bike down when you need too...so...



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Madmak


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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/28/11 1:15 PM

Yes, I suppose that is a valid point. 1st gear and drop the clutch kills it too if the key breaks. An accident is a tough situation to guess on, it would be handy if the rear tire is knawing at your ankle with the bike on top of you...



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/28/11 2:55 PM

NAH Worries if she goes over and the key snapped as said as these machines have an auto kill sensor in them as soon as they are on their side ! thats from my stack JUNE 14 Last year!!
Also IS what "HUB" has already stated! HE HE


* Last updated by: bean07 on 3/28/2011 @ 2:57 PM *



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 12:33 AM

There is no harm as long as you don't believe in natural selection.
You could try...mounting a $0.50 toggle or push button switch on the handlebars for the license plate solenoid...instead if disabling a safety device that could save your face from being chewed off by the rear tire


Side note: nuclear bombs have about 10 fail-safe switches, cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and have had instances were 9/10 fail-safes ...fail.

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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 6:33 AM

Of course bean, you're assuming you end up somewhere where the bike has room to fall on it's side. I've seen people get wedged with the bike leaned upwards, plus I've also heard the TOS doesn't always kill the bike right away and just stops it from being restarted again once tipped over(that doesn't make sense). I understand wanting to keep things clean and simple but that little switch you think is unnecessary is a lot quicker to hit than grabbing the key and turning in some emergency. IMO extra switches look trick if you get the right ones and I'd keep the killer especially if I raced. But then what do I know.lol



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Hub


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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 8:37 AM

Mad,

You would have to remove the two wires out of the switch harness to use the kill switch. On the main harness side, you install a paper clip in the two slots to reconnect the kill switch. Then take some fishing line and make a knot at the U of the paper clip. You bring that string up to the handlebar and now tie a rabbits foot on the end of that string. When you need to kill the bike, pull the rabbit's foot, which pulls the paper clip, which kills the bike.

Now you have two wires out the kill switch housing; go for it!



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Madmak


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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 10:48 AM

Adding a rabbit's foot pull cord to my nuclear bomb sounds like more work than its worth, and not the best idea. I just personally don't ever use the kill switch. In fact, I dont really like the idea that you can instantly shut your bike down my mistake during a left hand turn across a high speed road.

Maybe a better idea is to find a nice clean switch or even a ZZR left side switch assembly with the "flash to pass" button already there?? How hard would it be to find one of these?



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 10:53 AM

You order it on line but find a european website. More like germany has that passing switch. So, find a kawi dealer that can get you one OEM. The switch housing should be the same prong to harness fittings. You have the passing switch toggled to the high beam wire is all.



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/29/11 3:42 PM

Why the kill switch ?You have the emergency flasher switch on the other side that you probably never use.I disabled mine and wired it for powering up a RD so I can turn it off in a hurry as they are illegal in Ontario



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/30/11 11:20 AM

Ya, I thought of that too, good idea for a RD.
In Ontario the cops have radar detector detectors don't they? In Alberta alot of the radar traps are private contractors with a truck and a camera, I see many every day. We also have almost all red light cameras converted to speed cameras as well. Its a challenge to not get a ticket in the mail.
I looked inside the left housing and there is plenty of room for an additional switch there, just need to find a nice weatherproof one that looks appropriate. What do folks use as NOS switches?



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/30/11 3:20 PM

In Ontario if I get a radar warning I hit the kill switch and slow down immediately,so as not to be detected.If its a lazer alert your screwed.If I'm in an area I know I accelerate



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
03/31/11 1:15 PM

In Advance auto stores we have a kit for a 4 or 6 button flat switch I always thought would be handy. Unfortunately, it comes with a big combersome control box so I would never buy it. However, I think a flat switch the thickness of those vinyl place mats we had as kids at the supper table would be neat. You could just put double sided tape on the back side and stick it to any surface. Why hasn't someone done this? Even if you had to run a relay because of amp draw...



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Madmak


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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
04/02/11 9:42 PM

I went with the 4-Way flasher button for the plate switch. Wired it to control a relay that powers the actuator. I don't think I will miss that switch and it is easy to access in a hurry.



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
04/03/11 5:57 AM

Pics of the install???



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RE: Any harm in disabling kill switch?
04/04/11 12:27 PM

New thread here with video

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