To tell you the truth, I'm not all that impressed with what the test rider is doing on the track in this vid. The straightaway seg looks fast but he's not even touching a knee in the corners

a knee down is not everybody's riding style that tire told me he whoop some ass in them there corners. you want to race that rider on a zx10r and see what happens

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Bad your right on that one that for sure.....I have Zero chicken strips on both my bikes and even on the track on my 14 the plastics will drag first and on the 10 I rarely drag my knee....knee doesn't have to drag to be fast.....

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a knee down is not everybody's riding style that tire told me he whoop some ass in them there corners

The less the rider shifts his own weight, the more he has to lean the bike to shift ITS weight. ..so if the guy isn't hanging off his bike he's bound to use more of the side of the tire. ..but all that is irrelevant. That guy is going plenty fast enough to to melt his tire from edge to edge with lower tire pressure and constant high speed on a track. Heck, I could even do that on my 14 and I know I'm sure not the fastest. Yeah, I would like to see a ZX-10 race along with that bike. Hang on a few months, I'm sure it will show up on Youtube.

I don't think most of us need the fastest bike to get the best lap times on a track. ..and who wants to crash a 60 thousand dollar bike? I think this bike might turn out to be what most of us dream about for the street if it really does end up being a high powered lightweight like the ZX-10. ...but only another 50 hp from the street model? I think strap a nitrous system on your ZX-10 and you have the same thing without wings.

Kruz, are you getting one?

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The less the rider shifts his own weight, the more he has to lean the bike to shift ITS weight

hog wash

That guy is going plenty fast enough to to melt his tire from edge to edge with lower tire pressure and constant high speed on a track.

some people can look slow going fast and some can look fast going slow .

Heck, I could even do that on my 14 and I know I'm sure not the fastest

how many rolls of sand paper your going to need

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http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/kawasaki-ninja-h2r-will-go-quite-a-bit-faster-than-210mph/25674.html

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hmm the new S1000RR is claiming 200hp as well (199hp). It'll be interesting to see how the H2 makes it's power. What kinda of torque we are dealing with. I agree with Rook. If they wanted to market the bike as a track weapon, we would have seen somebody drag a knee on it but then again it can't be a drag racing bike. The ZX-14R is already king of the strip. Also the absence of a belly pan implies that they are talking drag strip not circuit. In my opinion, it is almost as if this bike was built solely to commemorate the original H2. To remind people Kawasaki makes the fastest things on two wheels not necessarily the fastest around a corner. I don't like the H2R looks but with full fairing and some mirrors the H2 may be one the sexiest bike out there. In any case because of the price, I won't be getting one. It's one thing to be able to afford it another to be able to crash it. Brock says only 40 to reach Germany, so probably 300 max in the states! The H2R is probably just a marketing move to sell the H2.

P.S I hope the bike has more than just sheer speed. 210 mph from a stock bike with minor mod would be impressive but with an Super Charger...

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The less the rider shifts his own weight, the more he has to lean the bike to shift ITS weight

hog wash

The bike and rider is so tall and so heavy and thus so much centrifugal force turning a corner. either the weight/height has to shift or the bike has to lean more to counteract the centrifugal force that's trying to tip the bike over to the outside of the corner. So, you lean the bike more or you lean yourself more. Both are equally important. Leaning the bike is harder IMHO.

some people can look slow going fast and some can look fast going slow .

Agree there. No doubt that guy is moving. I just know if it looks like anything that special. Prolly hard to say without another bike close by to compare.

Heck, I could even do that on my 14 and I know I'm sure not the fastest

how many rolls of sand paper your going to need

LOL! None! Just a warm day and a track and 28 psi. It was not even difficult. I've shown the pic too much already. It's nothin to brag about. Anyone with a little riding experience can do it on a track. Street is a different story.

The H2R is probably just a marketing move to sell the H2.

I think so. The street version will be a nice powerful bike but it's not going to be "beyond belief." I like it. I'd ride it just for the coolness of it. I'm sure it will be as good as a 14 though it would not make sense to sell that and the 14 if the H2 is faster.

P.S I hope the bike has more than just sheer speed. 210 mph from a stock bike with minor mod would be impressive but with an Super Charger...

Remeber, the H2R was the bike that did 210 stock not the H2...and stock is about all you're going to see for this bike unless you can find parts that fit off of other bikes.

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Brock says only 40 to reach Germany

This is not looking good for Joe-A. I'm nothing but a butt riding N/A.

If they wanted to market the bike as a track weapon, we would have seen somebody drag a knee on it but then again it can't be a drag racing bike.

Trellis means lightweight.
Hardly any fairing says lightweight.
Run a direct drive (until further notice) air compressor that is going to pack air faster than a turbo and lose no friction being direct drive. Both spool up in a linear fashion as if feeling the same linear as if the 14 cranks up the same way only quicker.

The corporate headthink was, lets build a bike to end the argument was the 14. The next headthing was, lets build the 'fastest accelerating bike,' because we can do it and remain king power. The same acceleration of the H2 of old "Repackaged"

Fast Test of all come one come all you lose! No shit, unless someone has kept quiet till the show. I doubt it, but you never know till the umbrella girl does her thing.

The tire is cooked past the chicken stripes, go and stop the latest vid near the end. Look at the bike's front end. The fork angle says road race. The trellis says road race. The SC says front straight. The brembos says it stops. The wings say top end stability.

Conclusion?
This is no drag bike, the 14 has the rev limiter, the staging light comes on you rev till a light comes on; you can't hear the rev; watch the needle; but you see red; and this 14 is all about a drag bike disguised as a sportbike.

The H2R is a get to pikes peak like spool the fool that does not use one breaks the hill record.
The H2R is for boring-ring you run the long track and wastes that zx10 time by seconds, not hundreds.
The H2R is a limited run of boys with toys already heeeeere's santa!

The H2 is a street version of blow me it won't be moving any faster than 186 so who cares.
The H2 is going to be the fastest accelerating bike no matter what tune the SC is tuned at.
The H2 is looking like Joe-A is looking in the window and that's about it. It's another boy toy someone is moving on up the ladder.

I'll wait for the hooligan model with upright bars, yeah, when these are a dime a dozen in production. If Brock hears 40 to how many dealers in germany? 500 is the R run, but the H run is double? No N/A is going to beat this bike. So if this is 'new era,' yam has to step up, suz has to era the match?

10 years goes just like that and this bike already is looking teef leaf in the long.

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Short answer Rook...NO! Not going to buy anymore bikes, shopping for a new home, all my spare change will go there for awhile. Want to design the ultimate man cave out of my garage complete with hydraulic bike lift, couch and beer cooler.

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That's what I'd do too.

The H2 is a great looking bike but if it's more power you want, I think you can have that via turboed 14 for a lot less $$.

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I think you can have that via turboed 14 for a lot less $$

You need to do that so after you pop a couple engines you see how nice a warranty and turbo goes together

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I'm accepting that as the price for drag racing. You need big power, you pay big money. The H2 will have good power and probably a bit lighter but it won't be enough to compete with the boosted hyperbikes (for as long as they stay together).

You think those engines went boom mostly from the launches they endured? On the one hand, the motor spins up easier in low gear so it would seem to be less stress on the motor, more stress on the drive. On the other hand, spinning up fast and easy might could cause stress from all of the instant momentum. I won't be doing serious drag launches any time real soon but I've already mentally started to prepare myself for the trauma of engine failure after I go with NOS. Hope it doesn't happen but if it does, it does. No more 14 for a while.

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Launch control for the western market go drag race? Short wheelbase, shorter than the 14 go drag race? The the 10r kit wants to run one on the track for WSB is it? An engine is an engine and those rims are going to be replaced once these leave the dealer floor or limited production street bikes?

Oh, we met our 300 but there is more hp we found for the next production run? JoeBlow won't be able to touch this so it was just a limited production house exercise... See me in 3yrs we see where this goes.

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You think those engines went boom mostly from the launches they endured?

They all went boom during lean AFR conditions.

Detonation.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EaOaQ6GyOA

This thing sounds bad to the bone, you can feel the torque everywhere in the powerband...... it is simply built beyond belief.

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I'm accepting that as the price for drag racing.

you think drag racers are the only people to blow up motors. like I said own a turbo bike and you'll understand why the h2 is a good deal compared to just installing a turbo on any bike.

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ya , I know 1bad, the whole bike is designed to operate with boost. No temp problems, no tuning no figuring out how to fit stuff, and it is more reliable. BUt I'll take a turbo bike for drag racing and LSR any day over a supercharged bike that only makes 240 hp. If there ends up being ways to up that on the non race model, it probably will be a great bike.

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Bad I’m with you…. I will take a little less power and reliability every time. I’m done fix motors and not riding. I’m willing to pay extra for a bike that is engineered to kick ass right outta the gate. Hope on her and take her on a 2500 mile ride and when it rains now worries about issues…….Been there done that.
I talked to my dealer the other day and they are heading to a dealer meeting in about a week and a half so we should know everything we need to (I’m Hoping) by then…..

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If i would have just been happy with 4lbs I can tell you it wasn't enough to make the zx14 blow. It usually happens when people get greedy and want to go faster without getting out the wallet to build the motor. I know... been down this road, been there done that got the t-shirt. Keep in mind though guys that just because it's coming from Kawi, doesn't mean its not going to blow.... look at the first batches of s1000rr's that were made... they were blowing constantly. If enough blow, Kawi just may do a recall and tame them down with your next trip to the stealership? Who knows>? I can tell you this though... no one has a bike like mine - I won't bump into another one on the street - customization is all the fun in owning a bike imo. Plus once they H2 comes out, I'll be out hunting - and first one I see I am going to eat it badly.....

* Last updated by: zx14beast on 10/9/2014 @ 9:55 AM *

This I wanna see!

H2 Owners Face ---->

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Plus once they H2 comes out, I'll be out hunting - and first one I see I am going to eat it badly.....

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"I'll be out hunting - and first one I see I am going to eat it badly....."....hmmm...here in the States,the phrase "eat it" generally means....crash...lose....something along THOSE lines.You aren't meaning THAT...are you?

She's gonna be a killer fast accelerator monster.Gonna have to do some homework over this new bike;)10 modes...KTRC(or a super equivalent)....that alone spells death knolls for the average big bike launch crowd.The street version...ahh...maybe not so tough...but still...WAY ahead of anything streetable.IMO.

I think they meant it when they said..."built beyond belief"....and not just speedwise....

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Wealthy owners aren't known for messing around with their machines too much. It might be a long time before anyone unlocks the secrets to derestrict the street model...if there are ways to derestrict it, that is. I think Kaw is hinting that 'there is a lot more potential hp.'

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"Wealthy owners"...gonna be some 'not so wealthy' owners out there...dyin(maybe literally)to hit 300 MPH....

Well...time to head off to work now...you guys have a GREAT DAY!!!Go RIDE!!!!

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