I'm the quickest stock wheelbase guy on the site and I use the CBLAST flash. Take it or leave it.

Nasty I agree. Probably hurt some feelings.

Mav,

What exhaust are you running? Thanks in advance.

Alien Head 2 system by Brock's

Thanks Mav, that pipe sounds sweet... I really like the feedback I'm hearing from you guys with Sebs flash and I'm thinking that's the direction I'm heading. Since you have the Brock's pipe did you ever run his map? Are you happy with that pipe or would you pick something else if you had it to do over. I have 2bros slip ons and wondering if a full system will make enough difference to justify the expense. Thx

GunShow, I have a 2012 ZX-14R. You're wondering if going from slip-ons to a full exhaust makes much of a difference. I had Muzzy slip-ons on my bike for 2 years. I actually got bored with the bike. On July 4th this year, I put a Brocks Alien Head 2 full system on my bike, like Mav has, and I had the ECU CBlasted. It's a completely different bike! I had to learn how to ride it all over again because of the power. When you're going 140 mph in 3rd gear and the front wheel is still off the ground, that's power!
So, if you're wondering if there's a difference, there's no comparison. A full system and an ECU reflash brings out the potential of the bike like Kawasaki made it to be.

That's what I was looking for mokaw... Thank you.

If you're interested in a Brock exhaust, get ahold of Lee Pritchard (smokin zx14) on zx1441r forum. He'll give you a great (smokin) deal.

I'm torn between the AH2 and Muzzy M10.

Yes I have run the Brock's fueling in the past and I prefer the CBLAST tune. The Alien Head 2 makes a tad more power.

I'm torn between the AH2 and Muzzy M10.

AH2 has great map support from Brocks, also gets you access to the private section on his forum. That may or may not be important to you if you're getting Cblasted. The Muzzy M10 is substantionally cheaper.

In the end get the one you like to look at best

I had to learn how to ride it all over again because of the power.

No offense, but wada crocka shit. 3.10/155/8's is all even up, yes or no?

Hub: As far as I'm concerned I am done withis flashit.

Mav... It reads like this:
I am done thinking the flash will outperform a 3.10 when itself hits 3.10. And tell me if I am wrong, you prefer the crispy gurgle but you gained nada. Smoked pulled a 155 on a flash alone. That says he matched your mph. Tell me if that's wrong.

Are you still trying to compare long bikes to stock wheelbase bikes? Please tell me you've learned SOMETHING about drag racing on this site.

Hub, why did you quote me when I said I had to learn how to ride it all over again because of the power? I was comparing going from slip-ons to a full exhaust. If you think it's a crock a s..t, you're entitled to your own thoughts and opinions. Have a good one.

why did you quote me when I said I had to learn how to ride it all over again because of the power? I was comparing going from slip-ons to a full exhaust.

Because I've been there done that and it sounds like an exaggeration. Yes, there is a change, but a leap? No. Now, this is where I now answer Mav. Say we take 2 14's and drop them off a building at the same time. Which bike speeds up? The 3.10 bike or the 155 bike?

Mo, see that leap? I didn't think so.

You can't directly compare me and Lee Hub. That's not what this is about. Hell I'm 180+ suited. Probably closer to 185 right now.

Pretty strange how the numbers match. That's my problem.

I'm a short timer here but it's obvious there are proponents on either side of the fence for Cblast or the various guys doing the maps. Much of the discussion seems to be based around the 1/4 mile, something I will never be doing. I have been researching as much as I can and I can't seem to find negative feedback about the Cblast flash. Some riders have ridden the big name maps and the flash and say the flash is better. These are street riders which I am. Has anyone ever gone from Cblast to big name maps? I haven't read about it but that info may be out there. I'm (I mean was) a Harley guy who thought I was bad ass with 122hp so this is an entirely new world to me. What hasn't changed is wanting to get the most bang for my buck. A black M10 and a flash is cheaper than a Brock's system alone. Given the fact there is a ton of positive feedback on Sebs flash plus I'd have more money in my pocket in the end it's tough not going in that direction.

I've tried several flashes now with my 14R's.Several different exhausts.PCV setups..mapping.

For MY wants with this bike performance wise and ride quality wise...I've stayed with the Cblast flash.Not that the others weren't fine...but this flash simply meets my wants more than the others...everyone rides different and wants different things...

Hey Grn14...seeing you've tried a few combos, is it worth it to ditch my slip ons for a full system when I pull the trigger on the flash?

3rd gear wheelies at 140 mph on a zx14r with a full exhaust......hmmmm I'd like to see that one.

If you have the money...yes...a full system.