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Thread: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!

Created on: 06/28/15 01:39 PM

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/10/15 9:04 PM

Everyone has the right to express their opinion. Everyone has the right to be critical. And Yan you are right folks who have a negative experience should have the right to state their case. I agree. So far who is experiencing problems? Beyond Vic?
And what is the nature of the problems.

Yan your also right that a singular good review is not enough. Who else out there is experiencing positive benefits?

C is the type of guy that would make things right. I believe if you had an issue with his product he would fix it.

So going forward what are all the issues. And what are all the positive opinions. If there are issues have folks addressed them with C?

These are my questions as I lay my oversized cranium to sleep.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/10/15 10:21 PM

Just so you both know, I'm goofing on you and C. A little entertainment as the 'sure is a slow forum' can a forum be and you all are still looking in for a fresh daily. Just think of my pillow as bored as hell waiting for motogp to start lol.

Everyone has the right to express their opinion.

How can I express an opinion if I have no clue what a Cblast/Ivan/Don flash is? I'm just your fly in the ointment, the 'waiter, there's a fly in my soup' and now take it back, pulls the fly and returns the soup?

Everyone has the right to be critical.

Whooooo, step on the brakes, pal. I'm just wondering about the action of the flash. I'm trying to decipher some sort of frequency change is all. There are no other moves more or less than what I think is happening. So if the happy flashers find a bottom end or mid grunt, this makes me critical about something was enhanced for pep or limped in a safe manor?

So be being very critical of the hack and a limp 'we take measures' is how critical I am, looking at this certain area. Anyone associated with the flash is just in the way. And you get the critical abstract wrong as how I see it... Oh, the book is going to spank the critics.

a negative experience should have the right to state their case. I agree. So far who is experiencing problems?

Well, the way I see this is, my critical, to the point, only the facts man' did I get booted off asking how yannih got to where he landed up. I was asking more or less, do you know watt you are doing? And I'm not going to be that critical against Cblast when this is simply a learning curve. Who knew all these actions were to occur? 4-5-6 is news to me and I love that kind of output happening in the FI of it. Puts me in critical thinking. Not C's fault he learns the hard way and passes it along. Keep me out of the loop makes one ______ Fill in the blank.

Beyond Vic?

You know WOT? Vic is beyond a test pilot. Goof on his numbers as I goof on his being scared to whip it up. They are Not my numbers, Not valid enough reading my needles on my end is just another assfactor with his junk science is a one hit wonder test.

And what is the nature of the problems.

That simply Romes was shit upon for exposing the truth. The curtain looked so utopia until you join eye says and now you see the reality it is not. You get shot for desertion. And there is desertion in the ranks. So the, 'this is your download, no it's not' and the post office was too close to a spinning cough'inn, I laughed so hard trying to keep the propaganda going as if eye says your 72 bin loads of virgin files are waiting lol

[q]Yan your also right that a singular good review is not enough. Who else out there is experiencing positive benefits?[q]
Hard to come away with a benefit if yannhi loses his sensor? But your sensor is safe no code to mess wit?

C is the type of guy that would make things right... an issue with his product he would fix it.

I'm going to be fair about this, and bring in the critical evidence:
Yannih = Down time extended due to tesla spinning in a post office is the abstract, not understanding what now is a radio click to remove the code blink, and remove sensor to also disable 4-5-6 was paypal the middle man and the exchange rate/transfer fees yannhi sucked up is time&money was on the lap of yannhi short changed because of the learning curve jumping in and flashing? That's tuition money out of my pocket, not yannhi's learning curve is now out in pubic and who is the dick in all dis? You wonder why I have those meat puppets in my vids is guess why that symbol works universally?

I make up these lame jokes and they are my way of laughing at the truth serum is laughter on someone's receiving end. Is to take those words and use it against them. You spin it, then I'll spin itulsa. Then make a critical decision for yourself.

So going forward what are all the issues.

Desertion is one. Yannih is 2 and Vic 'I need an excuse' is 3.

And what are all the positive opinions.

Well, that's just it. There are lots of positives and now why are you not in the reality check of a problem? Last bit of news is this whopee woman. She is in denial, but I see her side as innocent until proven guilty. So a long list of burnt women come out and I see these as burning houses. But whopee is saying, no I am going to wait for the fire trucks to make sure the houses are burning. So the arson comes out, confesses he used drugs to open the legs he could not get in otherwise. Are you still in denial or are wise to this yet or not? Am I in need of a court of law, or are there strange women that lost their careers over this, but he's out of hot water needed to put out the fire? HELLO?

If there are issues have folks addressed them with C?

Well, since I am out of the loop and you are not about Vic vs. watt happened with C, I saved the best for last.

These are my questions as I lay my oversized cranium to sleep.

Lay next to that ugly bitch and think about Wee and his brick. I bet he thinks about that brick everyday and there is someone not addressing the tuition money, I had to go into the flash business and here we are. ARE you WHOPEE'D whipped? Go bite on that denial... Sleep [jaw] TIGHT.


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Wolfman



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 4:27 AM

"All in good fun"
Of course I get it. I have a self sense of humour.
Like to know what's going on though. I will admit If I diminished the insights of other contributors (Hubs and Vic excluded) I'd like to hear from them. As I read this chronicle of Vic's I'd like to get to the root of the issue(s).


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 7:33 AM

In these recent flash problems threads I think we've heard from only 2 of the CIGaR group of flashers (these are the ones I've heard of):

Cblast = MIA? On vacation? Unwilling to join the discussion?
Ivan = Check
Guhl = Prob not gonna happen here; posts on another site(s) I think
Romans = Check



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 8:53 AM

extrap, that was a full list of dyno owners, sans Cblast. C has access, but that's it. Not years at it, just about a year in or a little over a year? I'm trying to remember when I bought the pc and wooly, it was early last year?

So I'm going to assume every flash is different? Ivan is after smooth, Brock wants the most extraction so that puts Don after what pwcomdr says to do is find peak HP using a dyno. Romes has turbo experience on the dyno.

When C was overloading threads with those happy customer posts or some dyno chart, it was a here we go. Now, I'll tell you something behind the scenes. I'm getting a sense of too many C threads, and this last long one is where I was the second post, I'm going to flame the fire down with puppet piss.

Too many, 'oh here we go again with a C thread,' and that's when it was more one of them there 'runner uppers' of the forums. It's an I rip into their abstract, where is my password, this is what I came for is fraudulent abstract.

Nothing against Cblast because he's on a learning curve. I see it. I make them open the man you will pay for not reading in between the lines kind of, is not running with the big dogs yet. He's a puppy. And I'm not a big dog. I could not tune my way out of a paper bag if both ends were open, I said leave the jetting, looks good, he ups the jet and it runs better. Nothing wrong with being wrong on the learning curve is how you learn and for me I keep learning by my mistakes.

Here is the list as it stands.
Ivan = No bricks
Don = No bricks
Romes = Sent a warning flag up about said ECU family combo fails?
Cblast = Yannhi learned the hard way and here is C in the learning curve. Wee's brick. Here he is holding the learning curve, if this was flashed by C. Vic is a throwaway, who know what the post office did to that ECU?

And then C?... there are the success stories. I sea I see said the incoming daily.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 9:49 AM

Is this said ECU the one that smokin had before, that was throwing a code before anyone else touched it ?????

And Ivan, could you ring in again about Guhl ? because you told me something about him a LONG time ago on the
phone, I will let you tell everyone, I respect your work Ivan, this isn't about you ....



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 10:01 AM

Didn't know Yanman was having issues with a C flash.Mine was perfect.Possibly a wrong value placed in there by accident?It could happen.Send it back to him...he'll reflash or whatever.Not all bikes are the same.What works good in one may not work quite the same in another same model.The bike is not there to be dynoed 'pre-flash'.It's a bit disappointing to have to remove,ship,and pay for it all.I get that.Things happen though...you just have to deal with it and do what you need to do.I accidently sent Don my relay,not realizing it was that.The ECU was kinda hidden on the right upper fairing.He called me and said"Monty,you sent...".I had to pay for it,and the sending of the ecu.(my H2).Ya just suck it up...no harm no foul.As distressing as it sometimes is.Shipping charges were actually okay.It wasn't that much.


I just saw the video...I would have to ask...was this a 1st gear start up run?If I do that with my C flash...my bike will lift in a second...totally full or torque.And how does the bike feel when hammering up through the gears?Stock is a bit 'hesitant' powerwise I always found.The C flash changed all that.


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HanksZX



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 12:14 PM

Grn14......"was this a 1st gear start up run?"

Chart in first post shows gear 3 & 4...



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 3:37 PM

At least somebody here has real man legs.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/11/15 6:56 PM

Swapped ECU back to stock. Took a ride. Wheelies and as robust as these rides have been lately, the flash has never stuck the front end up; I reach this certain rpm. I was in F-1 no less. And remember, flyless... So your grunt is not my grunt.

Surprised me! And that's today's assfactor debrief.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/12/15 9:10 PM

Wolfman, get in the pool you big pussy. Beautiful day and looks like good time.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/12/15 9:29 PM

I dunno about you twats! LOL! Killin me with the putter patter! Yo, Sebs CBLAST Flash is flawless on my bike. I've been running his flash since before he released it to everyone. A couple updates were needed as I had changed my exhaust from slips to full system and a bmc filter blah blah blah. I ride the piss outta mine and the flash transformed my bike. 204 hp 119 ft-lb... C has seen my dyno sheets. Nuff said boys! Now I just gotta get that launch control option !



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/12/15 10:37 PM

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Did I laugh at dis, was yes, hard.

I dunno about you twats! LOL! Killin me with the putter patter! Yo, Sebs CBLAST Flash is flawless on my bike.

Man, I hope so. I can't have this much fun alone. I have to believe someone says "Ivan's tune, yada praise," then C and his tune, is "yeda-praise." Then me, having stock bikes all those years, me trying to tune those bikes with all the crap coming out like kerker pipes, smooth bores, jet needle kits, the cams and pistons with their short fuse, but throw them out in the street and boom they go, if not knock. All that money and a jolly good time was, it was so almost there after mod after mod trying to make it run decent.

So, mr. stocker here is still looking at the same old shit, different decade, same old mods, same old detune the fuckers if you have no clue, can't help you, I've got my own test and tune to do. See, I have to think that I'm on the same page as you. Out of all of this, there are happy pants as yourself, Wolfy, Grn, etc.

I'm reading Vic's numbers and now I'm stuck wit dis shittyit and I am more or less in limbo. Not that I care, but I have to agree with Vic about this stuff is getting weird. I am fascinated with this black box and the only way I learn something is out in the field with the problem child.

I have Grn with many sat on flashes and his count of the dashes. There is Yannih and that field-fix is, Grn, we have a western type emission compliance, europe uses an 02 and those emission standards. They run closed loop, we run open loop. So it is my understanding that to achieve this flash, disable the light, or not? Because hacking the 02 sets it another way; it gets complicated and that's where this box exposes some strange moves.

So Vic is a field fee ass go, I make a suggestion that answers a field fix. And here we go is mix a little truth, sprinkled wit a little socratic irony.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/12/15 10:54 PM

Okay...thanks Hubster for clarifying that about the sensor.Didn't think I had lost it just yet...but ya never know;)

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/13/15 1:18 AM

Vic; have you contacted C to see if he'll diagnose the flash for errors? Sorry if you've answered this question, but I don't feel like re-reading 5 pages.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/13/15 7:03 AM

David. Yes sir! I took your good advice!







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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/13/15 7:24 AM

to see if he'll diagnose the flash for errors?

alg, a dash blink would have been mentioned. So no, no codes. This is a clean flash.

I don't feel like re-reading 5 pages.

You and me both.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/13/15 5:13 PM

Al as Hub said, there is no "errors" or whatever, ECU works fine as far as the bike running.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 12:29 AM

I guess I was thinking fueling/timing errors, a number misplaced, altitude correction, or some fine tuning. I always give contractors and such one chance to correct a problem. Although I find it odd that C isn't all over this thread. I'm definitely a neophyte in the flash arena. I just figured if you have 2 ecus, and a re-flash is free, it would be worth the shipping to see what C could do, if anything. If it's "one flash for all", then yeah, it's as good as it gets.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 4:34 PM

It won't necessarily flash a code.It could still be not quite right and show no lamps(codes).

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 5:16 PM

The way mine performs, I propose Vic ride the flash for a few weeks, then swap the flash back to stock. What, for the life of me, if it's electricity, mixed with magnetism, what a dramatic change to the shift quality when the swap is made

In fact, I challenge anyone with a stock ECU to go plug theirs back in, note the difference. Nice try beating the factory formula?



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 6:27 PM

Well...I did just that...a while back.gotta say...the flashed one was quite a bit more performing...fuel mileage was up,temps were down(some)....throttle was crisper.The factory ECU settings are fine...allow for nice linear performance.They do lack the 'edge' however.And they certainly affect the power delivery...to be more..'safe' for Joe A.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 6:38 PM

I just don't see how anyone whose gotten a flash from the techs here can say they are disappointed.As I said earlier..the flash guy doesn't KNOW exactly what you want..unless you TALK with em at length and explain clearly.Since they're going off of THEIR dynoed bike...not yours...they kinda have to 'guess' what it is someone really is asking for.

My Cblast flash came from HIS flash to his own bike.The same flash.He instinctively KNEW what I wanted after talking.HIS flash for his bike was just what I wanted.It worked out well...

You have to enter in the variables of YOUR bike.Bike weight,rider weight.All that.So it could run differently depending on those variables.I'm 165...others may be in the 200 range.It DOES make a difference.Plus the shedding of weight off the bike itself.A stock 14 isn't gonna perform the same 'flashed' as a weight modded 14 with flash.Piping,Air filter...all that,Fuel...oil weight.Good chain?Worn chain and sprockets?All that enters in.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 6:48 PM

You have to enter in the variables of YOUR bike.Bike weight,rider weight.All that.So it could run differently depending on those variables.I'm 165...others may be in the 200 range.It DOES make a difference.Plus the shedding of weight off the bike itself.A stock 14 isn't gonna perform the same 'flashed' as a weight modded 14 with flash.Piping,Air filter...all that,Fuel...oil weight.Good chain?Worn chain and sprockets?All that enters in

I don't see how any of this factors in for the same rider on the same bike.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
07/14/15 7:19 PM

GRN - I hear you, but I'm sure Vic didn't ask for "the same speed, or slightly slower". So



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