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Created on: 02/24/18 01:50 AM
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Hub
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/05/18 12:27 PM
You know how you see the list to the right and it says 'recommended for you?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InZOzwn71uA
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Hub
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/06/18 12:55 PM
Dis calls for a pair of testicles to remount. Only those with meat puppets need apply. And obtw, I called Dovi to win. And when my buddy called I said, 'didn't I say D....' as he cut me off and started to say he called it... (you had to be there) it was too funny a conversation to remember his quote.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/06/18 9:50 PM
Now hang on Hub, didn't everyone pick Dovi?
Commentators, Marquez, even me???
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Hub
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/06/18 10:55 PM
yannih, I went to bed early, woke up to see the field sitting on the grid, sat in the chair, woke up when they sprayed the bubbly. Earlier this evening I watched the race again and fell asleep thru it one more time. I never heard the pre-race comments. When I watched those 3 at the press conference, I was looking at the 3 best riders out there. Dovi is a seasoned racer like Rossi. He's been sitting on the same bike for a long time and that helps in the long run. Seat jumpers more or less start all over with a new bike under them.
This was the second time I said that if Lorenzo can steer that bike, look out. It shows he can ride any bike, where Rossi struggled till the end, or gave up, who knows? Jorge is one of the top 3. MM's record speaks for himself. MM holds the highest winning stats so far. JMO, but I looked at the cream of the corp sitting there at the press confer.
When you age you lose that tiny edge on everyone else. Rossi comes to mind. He's like watching a golf ball roll up to the cup but never drops in... oh so close. He'll settle into those grandpa naps before you know it.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/07/18 2:35 AM
Hub you misunderstood me.
I wasn't saying you heard Dovi was the guy to beat and jumped on the band wagon.
I was saying you didn't pick a dark hoarse there cause we all saw he was the guy to beat this weekend.
Ducati must be in massive damage control trying to figure out how they let Lorenzo slip through their fingers after his recent brilliant form. Their massive initial financial rider investment in him will now come to nought.
Honda have yet again pulled off a master stroke.
The only thing that will be interesting to see is how the two HRC team mates get on next season.
And they say Rossi is one of the greats.
That maybe so but one thing is for sure.
He couldn't ride a Ducati like Stoner and Lorenzo...
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/11/18 6:33 AM
No Qualifying 2 for Rossi.
#46 starts from 14th place on the grid for the Austrian GP!
Even the little fat ugly guy who's always hanging around the Yamaha pits that nobs Rossi off couldn't look at him when he returned from Qualifying 1.
Embarrassing...
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/11/18 6:54 AM
Oh, and Marquez on pole!
Again...
MM = Master Motorcyclist.
MM = Methodical Mind.
MM = Mad Man (in a cool way).
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/12/18 10:39 AM
First day with free practice, they showed Lorenzo in some sector. When I saw that guy work that bike out of that corner, that's when I made my decision. If you're a subscriber you can drag and drop on a few riders, the time sheet, the helicopter, or back to the feed they use for TV viewing. I rode with Rossi for most of the laps.
Rossi has to be one of the smoothest riders out there. Don't mind me, this is just my opinion. To watch him work his way up to 6th and how he passed the other riders. It was like watching an artist paint. Not only was he clean in the passing, the other riders more followed each other's lines and not Rossi's.
If you watch Rossi's lines, he's a late-late apex'r. That means he comes out of the corner differently. You can see that when he passed and left the other riders behind. Now the camera is facing to the rear. They are waiting for the repass. Here is where the younger set run the standard classic apex, and Rossi's setup is way late. So you see a group close together Rossi just passed, they follow each other out at the apex, and then you now see Rossi's line and it is nowhere near the same exit line of the riders behind. There is where he left a gap they couldn't reel back in. School was in session and they flunked as the midpackers.
Last few laps I switch to MM. Again, my opinion so now I'm looking out ahead with Lorenzo in front. Here I already have Rossi's throttle running in my head like an electric motor. I switch to MM and the smoothness is there, but IMO, not as smooth as Rossi. And then I'm watching the smoothest of all... Lorenzo. You look up glass in the dictionary, there's Lorenzo depicting.
I'm sitting there with MM as he blocks Lorenzo, leaning on him and pushing him almost off the track. MM is scrubbing off rpm so low, it was literally idling out of the corner. I mean, just to listen to the linear sound coming back up to speed was like you dirty boy you. And with that last blocking technique attempt one last time, Lorenzo was out on the paint and poured it on past MM. That was duc torque speaking on that exit speed and it was all over after that.
Smoothies stay upright more. Not too often smoothies like Lorenzo and Rossi crash.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/12/18 3:20 PM
I completely agree with Hub that Rossi rode a masterful race.
But I am tired of Rossi's never ending excuses when something doesn't go his way.
Rossi qualifies 14th.
Well, it can't be Rossi. It must be the bike.
And then it starts.
"The Yamaha is not competitive".
"We need to work on bike settings harder".
"We need new parts".
"The factory needs to find the solution".
And of course all and sundry then say "Yamaha are slow and have real problems".
Even Yamaha themselves are so far up Rossi's arse they apologise to the riders.
What a joke. Even if it happened to be true.
What self respecting manufacturer does that???
Unprecedented.
And what happened to loyalty to the brand that pays your wage, working hard behind closed doors to find improvement and staying positive regardless to support Yamaha, their reputation and their sales?
Then Rossi rides a brilliant race from 14th on the grid to 6th and could possibly have competed for a podium if he qualified better and didn't have to negotiate his way through the pack.
Well, that must be Rossi's skill and the bike has nothing to do with it.
And of course all and sundry then say "What a race from Rossi", "Great comeback", "What a rider".
See the problem?
Good = must be Rossi
Bad = must be Bike
You can't have it both ways.
Either the bike was rubbish and ALL results are poor, or Rossi was slow in qualifying and fast in the race.
Why will no one consider Rossi can have poor days like any other human being?
Don't just say "Great Rossi".
Call it when he is not.
I'm not saying the Yamaha is perfect but will anyone ever dare say anything negative about Valentino Rossi???
Vinales is not a great reference as he is simply now headfucked...
P.S.
How convenient that all have forgotten that Rossi simply could not ride the Ducati and so took the easy option by giving up and walking away.
Well Stoner could.
We all know Dovi can.
And Lorenzo has now figured it out.
So are they all better riders?
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chrly
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/12/18 3:44 PM
A very interesting take just after the race as the three riders were being congradulated by their teams ..MM went over to Lorenzo and they have a lil laffing tussel as it was easy to see that they had both been having fun..no whining or excuses or in your face stuff..they could turn out to be an exceptional team next year.. I can only imaging what the two of them pushing each other to higher performances " and having fun" will move them ahead of the rest of the pack.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/12/18 11:08 PM
Then Rossi rides a brilliant race from 14th on the grid to 6th... Well, that must be Rossi's skill and the bike has nothing to do with it.
Mav and tuner are no longer buddies that jell. That plays into the head game and now we question performance in the cranial realm. But if both bikes are equal, didn't heart, the driven spirit, plus the will to win play the part in Rossi's makeup? Sometimes you don't need a bike to get you there. It helps, but look a the experienced young talent Rossi made fools of.
Why will no one consider Rossi can have poor days like any other human being?
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/13/18 7:27 AM
"As simple as that." You need to have a racer's mindset to understand, "not just race, try to win."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=tkHKquY8hYE
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/13/18 7:45 AM
But I am tired of Rossi's never ending excuses when something doesn't go his way
Uh, aren't you talking about Lorenzo?
Everyone on the Yamaha this year is saying that they just can't get the electronics to work with that
chassis. The Big Cheese even apologized for the bike being bad.
Unless you're saying that Rossi, Vinales and Zarco ( on the older bike) have all forgotten how to ride.
Mad
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/13/18 2:18 PM
Sometimes you don't need a bike to get you there. It helps, but look a the experienced young talent Rossi made fools of.
That's a racer overcoming the machine's weaknesses.
Not you as well Hub?
Then explain to me the 14th position at qualifying because I see you didn't mention anything about that?
Again, I think he rode a brilliant race, over achieved with the equipment he was on and performed better than 95% of the racers in the paddock could have done in the same situation.
Pay him his dues.
But in the same breath call him out for his poor qualifying because it directly impacted his chances of any kind of success in the race.
Vinales made Q2 on a Yamaha and his current form is like he is riding on a 150cc dirt bike.
Zarco made Q2 on a non factory Yamaha.
Rossi could not get past Q1. Definitely no "overcoming the machines weaknesses" there!
So what does this tell you if you leave reputations at the door and are 100% honest?
That is all I am saying.
Lastly Hub, if what you say is the case, if it's not the machine but the rider, if Rossi can make a mediocre race bike competitive and turn lead into gold with his talent, desire, skill and drive, please enlighten me on his 2011-12 Ducati experience?
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Hub
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/13/18 11:31 PM
Not you as well Hub?
Got my first taste of the internet at around 1999. Gravitated to the racing scene, and Rossi at the time was someone I knew nothing about. Somehow I gravitated to this kid as someone to watch. So Hamilton and Rossi were my long term picks, I don't see anyone running at this level. It's when I saw MM leave from last place in the 125cc class was it? When I saw him run thru the field from the back row, same way I saw Kimi start from the back and win the race, you somehow have to see it as a racer's point of view I guess? I'm speaking from a racer's perspective. I've raced since high school, retired, then am currently a nut and bolt checker; playing pit mechanic. I never left the scene you might say.
Then explain to me the 14th position at qualifying because I see you didn't mention anything about that?
Again, I think he rode a brilliant race, over achieved with the equipment he was on and performed better than 95% of the racers in the paddock could have done in the same situation.
Pay him his dues.
But in the same breath call him out for his poor qualifying because it directly impacted his chances of any kind of success in the race.
Vinales made Q2 on a Yamaha and his current form is like he is riding on a 150cc dirt bike.
Zarco made Q2 on a non factory Yamaha.
Rossi could not get past Q1. Definitely no "overcoming the machines weaknesses" there!
So what does this tell you if you leave reputations at the door and are 100% honest?
That is all I am saying.
... please enlighten me on his 2011-12 Ducati experience?
I have no dog in this fight. I just like guessing the winner each round, and picking the up and coming talent showing potential. If yammie gets it together next year, I'm back with the same package like it's deja vu all over again.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/26/18 6:36 AM
Well, the show might be canceled due to rain and Monday is out. They are playing the daylight out at the moment. The last 2 minutes of qualifying was the race. Gopro British GP 2018. Wait for the yt vids to come out for that one. Qualifying for the brit gp had to be the race of the year. Fuck the race. Qualifying is where it's at. Especially how this gem went down.
This is england so this should have Rins be named, Sir Rins. Rins gets off at 150 or so. He more jumped off the upright bike. The water was so deep, he knew he wasn't going to make it so he slid, got up, waved to every rider heading there to slow down or look out! Then a bike and rider started flying onto the TV screen. Here comes Morbidelli's bike settling in the stones, and at the same time, Rabat also flies onto the screen and begins to hold his knee when he stops sliding in the stones. Rabat's out for the season I'm sure. Broken femur.
Got a guy that stays up on racing more than I, and told me this story was a while back. I kind of see two blunders for the season. Whatever was said, I have no idea, but Redding apologizes to aprilia for some comment. Aprilia comes back with a salary penalty and no chance now to be an in house test rider. The other one was duc and Lorenzo. They showed a bunch of slow-mo shots and here is Lorenzo with his leg comfortably positioned. That rear tank bonnet was all it took and duc at the time was not interested before Lorenzo began to 'steer it.' As if I had what's his name's phone number; to tell him to wait a little more. You'd think he'd listen?
Signed,
NOLTT
Another delay just called as of this post's post time... "Till further notice."
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
08/26/18 9:14 PM
I bet you can relate to this... Ever feel that stumble when changing sprockets and you get this hez and the throttle is not smooth? Or say you leave from a light and it bucks but cleans up after a second or less? So I drag and drop to see who they have as riders 1 thru 4. MM is running and his bike is so smooth and linear, not a blip to be heard. Next rider is Rossi. All of a sudden I'm hearing that hez from the low end area and it cleans up afterwords. Not crisp, not what I'd call clean throughout the rev range. Then the d&d goes to Maveric. You could tell the difference between both riders. Rossi is much smoother on the throttle opening. Mav is more aggressive and when he opens it faster, the hez is more pronounced.
I can't say for sure, but ear wise, computer speak wise, that ECU is stuttering when it speaks. That's why that squad is having problems, IMO.
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RE: 2018 Moto GP
09/06/18 1:55 PM
And my friends, this link from the Misano press conference is why Valentino Rossi is a has been and complete fuckwit...
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