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Thread: Jailbird story

Created on: 04/24/10 02:51 PM

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darryle


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RE: Jailbird story
04/26/10 3:08 PM

Shit Hub,you're dating yourself,Yosh honda that would be an 812 kit,Yosh z1,that would be 1002cc.The bastards spit the teflon buttons in the wrist pins,Honda 450 pistons were much better gave you 1015cc,good thing I didn't know you back then or I'd be dead.My Z was built by Lang,hand picked 450 pistons,yosh cams smoothbores 650 buckets raked frame laid down koni shocks.Went ten years on the street never beat,back then I'd never back down



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Hub


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RE: Jailbird story
04/26/10 6:06 PM

Boy, don't I remember those teflon buttons wearing down and then the wrist pin makes two grooves down the cylinder wall. This was when I had a backdoor in with the guy that owned the Yoshi emblem. Kind of a nasty legal battle, but Pop's got his logo back. So, those were THE guys with THE parts I was playing with.

Man, I could tell you stories about cams from Japan sneaking under the pilot seats without paying the tax on it. Remember that crap going on, speaking about dating oneself?



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Black1



Location: New York NY

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RE: Jailbird story
04/26/10 9:35 PM

Sambeaux,

At least you are alive in one piece!!

Out running a cop is never a good idea. But being part of the law myself the most you will deal with is time off from work and time in court they want your money and time. Like Heathun said if there is no video then it's your word agest his and the judge will most likely rule with the cop. Now I'm not shore what the cops are like down there but here it is a running joke too see who got out run by a bike and then it becomes personal and then if they catch you they will write you everything under the sun then at court they drop half of everything they gave you but that's a big chance too take.

Most of every ones statements are true but in live they never work for you!!

Best thing to do is lawyer up safer and cheaper in the long run..

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RE: Jailbird story
04/26/10 11:54 PM

Sambeaux,

Since you live in Texas....."Ya'll don't have a snowballs chance in Hell" if you go to Court with your word against the officers...

This is why they have Lawyers - instead of listening to a bunch of guys on a forum, hire yourself a professional where it matters - spend the $$$ for a lawyer who knows Texas law and the Texas court system. Texas has a lot of "discretion" when it comes to plopping someone's butt in jail - so there is probably some little part of the law that you didn't know about and the officer obviously did.

Regardless, if Texas has Public Defenders (appointed by the Court) - Keep in mind that you get what you pay for. If you're getting an attorney for nothing......expect the same in return. If you can pony up the dough for your own attorney, you might end up with a dismissal.

Good luck



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9secondsflat



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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 7:38 AM

Your honor, I tried to inform the officer that two other motorcycles went flying by me at a very high speed but he refused to listen to me....

Ask the cop when questioned, "Sir do you recognize me, look at my face, was I the person who was speeding by you that night with 100% certainty"

I will guarentee you that you will win if you use this question....

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Fuzz4141



Joined: 02/17/09

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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 12:06 PM

Def shud work in the US, seems like here the judges in traffic and driving matter want to more than to side with the accused in a his word against the policeman!!! I had a guy admit he was speeding on the stand under oath 90km in a 60km, the judge accepted all of my evidence with regards to estimation, speed on laser, and distance, and that the signs were clearly posted.... but because I didn't remember how many officers were working the spot (here in the city there may be more than one guy that works the spot with you) we do share the laser after we get the reading of speed and distance... the judge said after saying he believed all of my evidence and the addmission by the accused, he found him not guilty because I didn't remember if there was another officer there and if he had any cars pulled over... had nothing to do with the charge... but didn't feel like convicting.... needless to say there is going to be an appeal!!

Too bad you weren't stopped in Alberta!! LOL

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Grn14


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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 12:34 PM

Hope you'll be comin down this year Fuzz-the Kook is waiting to be carved!


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Hub


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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 12:42 PM

Boy in blue, you gonna jeopardize his job? If the laws were not so stupid, you could play and be off with a warning, wink-wink.



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Fuzz4141



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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 1:46 PM

I wish I could this year that was a blast cruiser through there at the maximum limit of course ;)!! Well maybe a few over!! But the boys will be making the trip without me this year... Baby's due in June and Preggers already put the hold on all trips for this year!! Rightfully so!! Next year for sure!!!

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Grn14


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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 1:56 PM

Alright-congrats on your new addition!God Bless ya real good.One o'these times we'll get together again.

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Grn14


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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 2:00 PM

"be off with a warning"....wohooo....wouldn't THAT be awesome.Haven't experienced that one yet!Still waiting.Doing what I always do-take my chances for the sake of the ride!(what a dumb way to look at reality,yes?)I gotta admit here though...I'm getting MUCH better at restraining myself while riding.No tickets recently-that's a start anyway!...."maybe a few over"....ha!It's cool Fuzz....yer not under oath here!!!!!Virtually IMPOSSIBLE to take that ride AT THE POSTED LIMIT!!!!!! I know that sheriff up there KNOWS who I am-at least-my bike and me,kinda-I always wave to him when he's parked over there past the dam-me cruisin by at the 70 limit.He came and "admired" my bike one time while I was restin up for the second half at the Libby Dam.Very cool guy.Had my helmet off natch,he probably was quite stunned to see a senior ridin a spaceship like ours.It's all good.If I recall...he did ask "how fast will it go?".I can't lie..I told him how fast.He surprised me though....he DIDN'T ask..."have you taken er up that high ever?"....guess he REALLY didn't want to know about that(good thing!)I'd of had to be truthful.Especially when my "reps" on the line!


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darryle


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RE: Jailbird story
04/27/10 3:58 PM

Was following a little green pick-up in north GA,passed him on a double yellow,safe pass,could see thru the corner.Several miles up the road one of our group wrecked.Were all pulled over waiting.The pick-up shows up he starts pointing at me while talking to the state police.The officer comes over lets me go with a warning.The pick-up was a park ranger,I didn't know they had as much power as a police officer.Lesson learned dont blow by a park ranger



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voodoodoo


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RE: Jailbird story
04/28/10 1:40 AM

So he didnt see you at all before u got pulled over??
Just decided to jail you based on the sound of your bike??

Sounds weird if you ask me.. maybe it wasnt you at all he heard, what about "that other guy" who drove past you??

I've heard about the wild west but in my historybook that is described as a period from approx 1850-1900..

I live in Norway, it is known to be the only country in europe to send people to jail for speeding.
But the police are not allowed to put people to custody based on the sound or even a correct speed measurement. They have to take the case to court get you convicted first.
The only thing they can do is take your driving licence for 4 weeks (after wich they must take the case to court) or fine you for e.g. reckless driving..



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lytnin


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RE: Jailbird story
04/28/10 5:34 AM

Illinois State Trooper got me on my ZRX1200 and told me if he can hear me and not see me I am going to fast so slow it down



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zxinit


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RE: Jailbird story
04/30/10 2:06 AM

After reading this thread, I couldn't resist putting in my 2 cents.

20 mph over posted speed limit is Reckless Driving in any state. I was once told by a LEO it is one of the federally mandated "laws" for them to receive federal funding.

A Park Ranger does not have the same "power of a police officer". They are State or Federal enforcement. They have no power outside of a parks boundaries, or in dealing with anything not related to Fish and Game. If it came down to his word or yours, you'd probably be screwed. Just as if I was to be pulled over, flash my credentials, and be told Oh sorry have a nice day. Is BS, but the way the world turns. No I am not a LEO. Was an example from knowing, and being related to them.

And lastly, never, never admit to a damn thing when they are "fishing".

Will get off soap box now.

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privateer


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RE: Jailbird story
04/30/10 5:05 AM

When I was young(er) I used to do stupid stuff like described above, also. It comes with the putting young people on fast motorcycles.

The original question, about what to do about the reckless driving arrest. All you can do is show up in court and lie. I mean, you cannot show up in court and say, yes, I was getting it big time and the officer heard right. You have to say, no, I accelerated fairly hard and the officer heard the pipes, but I never exceeded the speed limit or operated in an unsafe manner. He can make a point he had to do 125ish to catch up, but without a distance measurement with which to compute your speed, it isn't sufficient.

Then you get to find out what the officer has factually. Which may be nothing. Or may be something.

And no, an attorney won't help, thats a waste of money for something which will turn out to be either the officer has nothing but what he heard (dismissal, or maybe a loud pipes ticket at worst), or he does has some evidence, in which case you lose.

If the officer states that the distance he covered is X miles, and gives a computation of your necessary speed to take him Y minutes to catch up to you at 125mph (easy math) you will be found guilty.



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Jeff01ss


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RE: Jailbird story
04/30/10 5:42 AM

actually Park Rangers DO have authority to write tickets! If you don't believe me head down to Push Mountain in Arkansas(or any national park or national forest for that matter) and haul ass past him! They are federal law enforcement agents. He WILL arrest you and ticket you. I know this for a fact! The ranger that patrols push mountain even has radar and laser.



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